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	<title>Comments on: VANESSA WILLIAMS AND DAUGHTER JILLIAN OUT AND ABOUT</title>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.blackcelebkids.com/2008/07/14/vanessa-williams-and-daughter-jillian-out-and-about/comment-page-1/#comment-53380</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Candy, u r so right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Candy, u r so right.</p>
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		<title>By: Candy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Candy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 06:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Omg I don't know why black people are still stuck on that race crap....they discriminate within their own race. What's worst is that they're so sensitive to opinions that do not favor them..slavery was centuries ago...GET OVER IT!...we are all equal, but some of you remain pulling the race card and then complain about discrimination against you. Grow up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Omg I don&#8217;t know why black people are still stuck on that race crap&#8230;.they discriminate within their own race. What&#8217;s worst is that they&#8217;re so sensitive to opinions that do not favor them..slavery was centuries ago&#8230;GET OVER IT!&#8230;we are all equal, but some of you remain pulling the race card and then complain about discrimination against you. Grow up!</p>
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		<title>By: Lioness</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lioness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 05:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, randomchica, unfortunately, we are STILL stuck on that, lol.  Hopefully not for long, though- like Not Buying It said, love the skin you're in.  Thanks for the kind words, Not Buying It, I'm aiming them right back at you ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, randomchica, unfortunately, we are STILL stuck on that, lol.  Hopefully not for long, though- like Not Buying It said, love the skin you&#8217;re in.  Thanks for the kind words, Not Buying It, I&#8217;m aiming them right back at you <img src='http://www.blackcelebkids.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: randomchic86</title>
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		<dc:creator>randomchic86</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it amazed me reading the comments here. i personally dont feel that anything Not Buying It said was wrong, or was dissing dark skinned people. she is entitled to her own opinion, and she stated it. everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but here everyone is trying to push THEIR ideals of beauty to the front, everyone has their own ideal of beauty, it doesnt make it wrong and it doesnt make it right, but with every person being unique, then every person has their own ideal. i hate when people jump up arguing about light vs dark. damn people its 2008, are we still stuck on that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it amazed me reading the comments here. i personally dont feel that anything Not Buying It said was wrong, or was dissing dark skinned people. she is entitled to her own opinion, and she stated it. everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but here everyone is trying to push THEIR ideals of beauty to the front, everyone has their own ideal of beauty, it doesnt make it wrong and it doesnt make it right, but with every person being unique, then every person has their own ideal. i hate when people jump up arguing about light vs dark. damn people its 2008, are we still stuck on that?</p>
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		<title>By: Not Buying It</title>
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		<dc:creator>Not Buying It</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 15:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lioness, thank you for your comments and understanding where I am coming from.  It amazes me how many people say that I have self love issues when I am voicing my appreciation for people and features very similar to my own.  I feel that mixed people have every right to say that their mixed features are beautiful without commenting on all other beautiful features that can be found in people of African descent.  Anyone who thinks otherwise has his or her own set of issues...and its sad.  Anyways, I can tell you're a fly and confident brown skin sistah, just by your words...and I love it.  More people need to embrace their own and stop being so insecure.

Team: love the skin your in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lioness, thank you for your comments and understanding where I am coming from.  It amazes me how many people say that I have self love issues when I am voicing my appreciation for people and features very similar to my own.  I feel that mixed people have every right to say that their mixed features are beautiful without commenting on all other beautiful features that can be found in people of African descent.  Anyone who thinks otherwise has his or her own set of issues&#8230;and its sad.  Anyways, I can tell you&#8217;re a fly and confident brown skin sistah, just by your words&#8230;and I love it.  More people need to embrace their own and stop being so insecure.</p>
<p>Team: love the skin your in.</p>
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		<title>By: Lioness</title>
		<link>http://www.blackcelebkids.com/2008/07/14/vanessa-williams-and-daughter-jillian-out-and-about/comment-page-1/#comment-5520</link>
		<dc:creator>Lioness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 15:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm.  Interesting discussion.  Not Buying It, I completely agree with you- I think that you are 100% entitled to your own opinion, and you have every right to express it, just like everyone else here.  I think it makes sense that you would find Vanessa's features attractive- because they are!  She is a beautiful woman, and has nice-looking kids.  And you have every right to believe that light skin, light eyes, and long, flowing hair is beautiful- if that is your definition of pretty, then so be it!  It especially makes sense if you have those same features- of course they would appeal to you in someone else, particularly if you thought highly of yourself.  I think that light skin, light eyes, and long hair are pretty too, as well as other combinations.

That said, I think people's main issue with your statements is its origin. The way you phrased your first post implies that light skin/long, straighter hair is pretty- naturally, dark skin/short, curlier (aka kinky) hair is not included in that description.  This idea of beauty is not inherently African- indigenous Africans do not have light skin/eyes and long, wavy hair.  That image of beauty is a remnant of slavery/colonialism- it was taught to us by Europeans.  So I think to willingly buy into that notion is problematic for many people. I myself have- I am dark-skinned, with brown eyes and "kinky" hair.  And growing up, I always wished I was lighter and had longer hair, no matter how often my parents told me how beautiful I was.  And they were not ones to harp on hair/complexion- I was not told I was beautiful BECAUSE I have dark skin/kinky hair; those things were generally not discussed in in my household.  It wasn't until I was older that I appreciated my features as well as those to which I aspired when I was young.  So you're right- many, MANY Black people have issues with their skin color, and they certainly are keeping the weave/perm industry vibrant.  However, that doesn't necessarily make "light" right (not saying that you said that, I'm just saying...)  I wish people would learn to love themselves, no matter what their features- left to me, those industries would have gone out of business long ago... Anyway, I know you didn't specifically SAY you didn't love dark skin/kinky hair, so all this might be moot.  In fact, it is moot, because you don't have to like dark skin/kinky hair- your definition of beauty is your own.  As is mine, and I find people of every skin shade and hair type attractive.  Including Vanessa Williams :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm.  Interesting discussion.  Not Buying It, I completely agree with you- I think that you are 100% entitled to your own opinion, and you have every right to express it, just like everyone else here.  I think it makes sense that you would find Vanessa&#8217;s features attractive- because they are!  She is a beautiful woman, and has nice-looking kids.  And you have every right to believe that light skin, light eyes, and long, flowing hair is beautiful- if that is your definition of pretty, then so be it!  It especially makes sense if you have those same features- of course they would appeal to you in someone else, particularly if you thought highly of yourself.  I think that light skin, light eyes, and long hair are pretty too, as well as other combinations.</p>
<p>That said, I think people&#8217;s main issue with your statements is its origin. The way you phrased your first post implies that light skin/long, straighter hair is pretty- naturally, dark skin/short, curlier (aka kinky) hair is not included in that description.  This idea of beauty is not inherently African- indigenous Africans do not have light skin/eyes and long, wavy hair.  That image of beauty is a remnant of slavery/colonialism- it was taught to us by Europeans.  So I think to willingly buy into that notion is problematic for many people. I myself have- I am dark-skinned, with brown eyes and &#8220;kinky&#8221; hair.  And growing up, I always wished I was lighter and had longer hair, no matter how often my parents told me how beautiful I was.  And they were not ones to harp on hair/complexion- I was not told I was beautiful BECAUSE I have dark skin/kinky hair; those things were generally not discussed in in my household.  It wasn&#8217;t until I was older that I appreciated my features as well as those to which I aspired when I was young.  So you&#8217;re right- many, MANY Black people have issues with their skin color, and they certainly are keeping the weave/perm industry vibrant.  However, that doesn&#8217;t necessarily make &#8220;light&#8221; right (not saying that you said that, I&#8217;m just saying&#8230;)  I wish people would learn to love themselves, no matter what their features- left to me, those industries would have gone out of business long ago&#8230; Anyway, I know you didn&#8217;t specifically SAY you didn&#8217;t love dark skin/kinky hair, so all this might be moot.  In fact, it is moot, because you don&#8217;t have to like dark skin/kinky hair- your definition of beauty is your own.  As is mine, and I find people of every skin shade and hair type attractive.  Including Vanessa Williams <img src='http://www.blackcelebkids.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: nursarahlam</title>
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		<dc:creator>nursarahlam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They look gorgeaous together, mother and daughter. Vanessa really do a great job portraying Wilhelmina Slater..with her good looks and body she is a hot mama..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They look gorgeaous together, mother and daughter. Vanessa really do a great job portraying Wilhelmina Slater..with her good looks and body she is a hot mama..</p>
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		<title>By: Just visiting</title>
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		<dc:creator>Just visiting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Idk y black folks thing white people bring them down when ya'll are sitting up here fussin about light and dark.  Who's the racest ones?  All ya'll and against your own race because this one's dark and that one's light. There is beauty in everyone one of us no matter what the skin tone.  Sad people, sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Idk y black folks thing white people bring them down when ya&#8217;ll are sitting up here fussin about light and dark.  Who&#8217;s the racest ones?  All ya&#8217;ll and against your own race because this one&#8217;s dark and that one&#8217;s light. There is beauty in everyone one of us no matter what the skin tone.  Sad people, sad.</p>
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		<title>By: nikki</title>
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		<dc:creator>nikki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 02:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>misz bri just let you know vanessa eye change color depenting on her makeup that why sometime her eye are light brown  then greenish-blue. dont know what you see but vanessa kids are gorgoues I met vanessa in person and she gorgoues but we have diffirent opoion godblessed you..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>misz bri just let you know vanessa eye change color depenting on her makeup that why sometime her eye are light brown  then greenish-blue. dont know what you see but vanessa kids are gorgoues I met vanessa in person and she gorgoues but we have diffirent opoion godblessed you..</p>
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		<title>By: misz bri</title>
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		<dc:creator>misz bri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh and those kids are not gorgeous and neither is she. she looks best but her kids are little yellow monsters</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh and those kids are not gorgeous and neither is she. she looks best but her kids are little yellow monsters</p>
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