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Her name is Lisa Wu-Hartwell. She is the ex-wife of singer Keith Sweat and the current wife of NFL player Ed Hartwell.Lisa currently stars in the reality television show “The Real Housewives of Atlanta” on Bravo,but don’t you call her a “desperate housewife.” The budding actress owns her own real estate firm, Hartwell & Associates, a jewelry line called Wu Girls, a children’s clothing line, Hart 2 Hart Baby;she is also a model and a mother to 13-year-old Jordan, 10-year-old Justin and 1-year-old EJ.It is Jordan and Justin,however, who won’t be starring in the Bravo series because their dad,Keith Sweat,won’t allow it.

VIA E!:
The drama on Bravo’s new The Real Housewives of Atlanta series began long before the cameras ever started rolling.Lisa Wu Hartwell, one of the five women showcased in Bravo’s latest Real Housewives incarnation, tells me she was hoping to have all three of her children on the show, but her ex-husband, late-’80s R&B hitmaker Keith Sweat, has gotten in the way.Hartwell and Sweat have two sons together, 13-year-old Jordan and 11-year-old Justin. “He didn’t sign a waiver,” Hartwell complains. “He’s like, ‘Lisa, it’s nothing personal. I just really don’t know how they’re going to edit and if they’re going to make you look crazy. I just don’t want the kids to be, you know, overexposed or anything.’ “

Hartwell doesn’t buy it. “They asked their dad if could they be involved, and he [said] no,” she says. “It could have been a Disney show and I don’t think he would have signed it.”

An email sent to Sweat through his official website has not been returned.For now, Hartwell appears on the show as if she only has one child, one-year-old E.J., her son with her current husband, NFL player Ed Hartwell.

See pictures of Lisa’s family below: Justin (first pic),Jordan and EJ(second pic),Lisa and her husband Ed(third pic). Keith Sweat and his kids are featured in the last picture(thanks to urban-hoopla.com for picture of Keith and kids)

Meanwhile,the “Desperate Housewives of Atlanta” held a premiere party for their show last night.Ms. Tami Reed of Talking With Tami got a chance to attend the festivities last night. CLICK HERE to see pictures from the red carpet!

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  6. Lisa Wu-Hartwell, continue to keep your head up and do you…You and your spouse show how real love is and I will stay in agreement with you for you to have your boys. Nothing against Mr. Sweat, but hey a boy does need a male role model and Mr. Ed Hartwell is very capable of doing that and you both together will raise all three and whenever the other bunny comes just wonderful……May your family continue to flourish in superior health, unlimited wealth (8 figure status) unlimited peace, joy, love and all the things two loving people want for their family…..stand on 1 John 5:13-15 and just believe and not waiver and your petition will be granted….Just trust God, you will not lose……peace…..

  7. I like Lisa- she’s one of my favorites on the show. However, i’m not understanding why she would push for her children to be put on the show…like why is she making such a huge deal out of it?? I mean…if you notice, none of the other cast members children or even that involved in the show anyway. you may get a glimpse of them at the most. but it’s never anything major!! Why cause so much drama and confusion just to have your children on camera for just a split second? not only that but…i don’t believe she realizes the drama its causing already and they’re not on the show now. The show is called..”The Real House Wives of Atlanta.” not “The Real House Wives of Atlanta and their Children.” Lisa is pretty, successful with a juicy ass husband (good lawd!!) she should just do her and if she wants full custody of her kids well then that’s her business. The drive to get them just shouldn’t be to have them included on a show. That would be CRAZY!!

  8. As a mother I do feel you should protect your children from the nasties of this world an the media is a cruel place. He has a right to say he doesn’t want his babies on tv to keep them safe of the drama of the show an their is allot of it. Critics calling it a ghetto show even radio host saying they where ashamed to be black. Their are so many reality shows out their now that started of sweet but ended up all bad like john&kate those kids are being druggd through a nasty divorce publicly the media could care less. I love me some lisa an I could see why she wants her babies on the show but sometimes their are some things the world should’t see.

  9. We are all on the outside looking in! Noone knows what may have gone on in Lisa’s past . . .we are basing opinions off of assumptions. Personally, I don’t care for Lisa’s character on the show, though I don’t know her, I have seen enough to realize that she straddles the fence and always seems to play a role in every piece of drama that goes on! Don’t get me wrong, she does seem business oriented and appears to be a damn good mother; but what we don’t see is what goes on when the cameras are off!
    Everyone has a bit of a temper and diehard fans of the show saw the reunion and got to witness a lil bit of upset Lisa . . .ok so whats my point?? A man should never put his hands on a woman no matter how far he is pushed . . .but that brings me back to point A, that noone knows what went on in the past (unless of course u were a fly on the wall!). As a mother, model and wife of someone financially set in life, I know that if push came to shove and I were going through a custody battle with my lil one . . .all the money in the world would not offset the judges’ ruling on whats in my childs best interest.
    I actually commend KS for refusing to let the children have an active role in the show, I mean damn people, aren’t they going through enough?? Is President Obama wrong for not letting his girls be cast into the spotlight and wanting them to live fairly normal lives during their childhood??? And just because he rufused to sign the release for them to be physically on the show, does not mean that they don’t exsist! Lisa could easily mention or make refrence to her children! Nene made refrence to the fact that her eldest son has a different father and nothing more was brought up . . .how simple is that?? We know that Greg is not his biological father and its cool, and we don’t need to know who the mystery father is. Same as the children situation with Lisa, she could’ve brought the fact that she had two other children on the show and with her knowing the situation with their father; she could’ve moved on with her role on the show (and kept her personal situation to herself if she felt the need to; I mean, we all know whats going on now, so what would’ve been the difference??!).
    I think that the situation is being blown out of porportion . . .its all in Gods hands, he knows who the big bad wolf was (if there were any).She obviously has a relationship with the children and their father, so I’m sure if it is not in her favor that those adults will work something out! I think that the children will be in great hands no matter who obtains custody! But let us remember that a child should stay in a childs place!!!

  10. I agree with bobbie wholeheartedly.Ks has custody of his kids which shows that he really care about them and want them to have a stable up bringing. Many kids their ages and in their situation is not that lucky to have a strong parent that cares about them and really cares what happens to them. This is a cruel world for kids and if the parents don’t look out for them they can fall in to drugs, prostitution, gangs or even end up dead.Personally, I don’t know lisa or keith and I am not calling neither of them bad parents so please don’t take this the wrong way. I am just glad that a father loves his kids that much that he took the steps to make sure they grow up and have a chance at a good healthy life.Sometimes divorces are very devastating for the kids and the adults that are divorcing each other usually are caught up on who hurt who and the poor children are always caught in the middle. Again, I don’t know ks or lisa or who did what and I really don’t pass judgement on neither of them. All that matters is that the children is being taken care of by one of them so that they can grow up in a stable enviroment with love and support of one of their parents. I wish them all good luck in the future.

  11. Tina E. (Reggies mom) I understand your point of view, even though a lot of fans of KS, do not know anything about his and Lisa”s relationship. I sorry but you have to look at the other women in this world that are not black, being mixed or otherwise, she is just like Kimora Simmons, have two kids by these rich men, and then they are gone. Lisa is a loser, did you hear what she said, if she gets the kids, she is going after the child support. You have a husband, in the NFL, come on let him take care of you. Oops i forgot, he does not have a contract. I never heard that KS, beat his wife or girlfriend. Lisa lived with him for years you say, well she should have known how he was. I don’t like men being physical or mentally abruisive, that is totally wrong. I would just like to see our Black Men raise these boys to be some strong black men. They need to teach them to marry their own race, granted a lot of us are mixed, actually we all are. I just like to see them treat us better. Everybody in the world that has a ounce of sense, know Asian women, love money, and they will do whatever they have to, to get it. Drop two babies and oh i want a divorce, so i can get money for me and the kids. KS, flipped the script, and i am glad he did, look at Russell Simmons, not even 10 years of marriage, two kids, and what, what $40,000, a month for child support. How many of our black women get that kind of money. OKay, so don’t get it twitted, i just think fair is fair.

    • I think Lisa is leaving somethin out. A real mother doesnt leave her kids with anyone.Not for long. A mothers love is special . I remember when I was a kid and we visited our grandparents, all the other cousins got to stay the entire summer and after a week, mom was comming to get us. My Grandparents were great but my mom just believed in taking care of us. Im just saying

  12. I read the first couple of comments, then found it had really nothing to do with the initial article. Everyone has an opinion, why does everyone have to shoot their mouths in this manner. I’m sure if we were all in an open room, no one would care to say anything. I would just say good luck to the both of them and I think since Lisa is in the public eye right now, Keith Sweat may seem to look like the bad guy. But, WE don’t know their lives, and obviously he has custody, so she messed up somewhere.

    1 Corinthians 15:33 (New International Version)
    33Do not be misled: “Bad company corrupts good character.”

  13. I think you ppl who are taking up for Lisa are idiots. There is no way I would put my children on television but I think it is safe to say that I seem to be a little older than most of you. For the person who said if a divorcee decides not to date until her kids are older. Your comment was the most ignorant of all. I think the more you sacrafice the smarter you are. You ask does that make you a better mother uhh yes you idiot. I hope to God you are not a mother.

  14. Hole-up, everybody fall back. This is a Black Celebrity Kids web site and post. Think about them first!

    Thank God I’m a Cardinals fan.

  15. Speaking from experience….the courts do not favor the mom over the dad as you stated. That’s really old. So you’re already talking about something you seem to have not experienced personally. That’s where ppl make their 1st mistake. We don’t have a clue what went on during Lisa’s 1st marriage or if Keith has full custody. They likely have joint custody & the older boys live full time with the dad. Custody and where the kids live are two separate issues. I am not even a fan of Lisa’s but she definitely has my back on this one. You also stated something like…’a real mom know how to sacrifice no matter how painful’….Everybody’s situation is different and everybody’s PAIN TOLERANCE is different. What YOU are willing to sacrifice doesn’t make u a better mom. Ex: I remember a minister saying when she got a divorce she didn’t date until her kids were grown. Good for her. Clap, clap. Does that make her a better mom than divorcees who decide to date decent men that are respectful to their kids? Hell no. That was HER sacrifice. And who said Lisa hasn’t sacrificed. While Keith was touring on the road surrounded by beautiful women where was Lisa? Likely at home raising THEIR boys. And Lisa couldn’t be the evil mom ppl are trying to portray. If so then why did she get so lucky to have the beautiful husband she has now and their beautiful young son? That’s why we are not suppose to judge.

  16. I do give props to Keith for stepping up and taking care of his children because we have too many men out there that don’t. I do believe that all kids needs both of their parents, unfortunately, that doesn’t happen all the time. Nonetheless, who are any of us to say who the kids should be with???? Keith may not have been a good husband, but it seems as though he is a great father and for the best interest of those kids, thats whats important.

    I do feel for Lisa, being a mother, but at the same time she does need to get her life together, Her husband played in the NFL but if you guys read about his success in the NFL you’ll understand why they are having financial hardship. There is nothing worng with kids being in the media and as much as I love the Real Housewives of Atlanta, I dont think it’s a healthy environment for those kids.

    Someone mentioned that NeNe’s kids seem to be fine and so does Sheree and Kim kids, did it ever occur to you that its because their dads are not around, Sheree in particular????????

    Lisa I hope things work out for you and your husband and Keith you seem to be doing a great job, keep on keeping on and I have the most respect for any man who stands up and take care of their responsibility – kids in particular!!!!

  17. I wonder how many children would be better off raised by their father’s? I see ALL of Lisa’s friends are visitors to this site, b/c any REAL MOTHER would question why a judge wouldn’t give mom full custody & why it would take A GOOD MOTHER 5-yrs to take a serious interest in fighting such a ruling…Idk all about Kieth, or Lisa but I do feel that her choice to make this a public fight, and the story she’s telling doesn’t put her in a good light…Mom’s protect their children, most “normal” famous people don’t have their children on display for the world to scrutinize, ridicule or target. I believe in kids being kids and its hard to do that with a camera filming your childhood…

    I digress, I know LISA’S fan club is on here strong, not to mention a slew of feminist and women’s rights activist, who can’t possibly understand A WOMAN SUCH AS MYSELF arguing that sometimes dads are best…women & men are imperfect, therefore so are moms & dads…
    being the boys’ (biological) mother doesn’t give any special rights or an excuse if she was-or-is harmful to their upbringing.

    I understand men get away with a lot, it can be a job-plus being a woman and a mother, but we can’t use certain hardship to beat decent fathers over the head…who’s to say who is better for the kids? The courts I guess.

    • I must agree with you. When she said she lost custody to Keith Sweat, my first thought was, what could you have done that would convince a judge to give full sole custody to their father. When I read its been 5 years, I said, well that explains it.

      If my some strange incident, my son’s father was granted full sole custody, it would not take my 5 years to get them back, hell it wouldn’t take 6 months. Scared of the judicial system, my behind, the judicial system would be scared of me. She was too busy doing her own thing, her children weren’t her main concern.

      I do not watch that show & from all the drama I’ve heard on gossip sites, I am gald I do not. Since Keith Sweat has full sole custody, he can say no & Lisa has to deal w/it. I’m thinking she simply wants them on their for her own benefits, not caring on thing about the children. They are 11 & 13, they cannot make sound decisions regarding their future. Lisa needs to sit her behind down somewhere & stop lying to herself.

  18. I am a fan of The Atlanta Housewives but I wouldn’t want my children on that show either. Money isn’t everything. The show is for adult viewing for a reason, bad language, a lot of drinking, sexual implication and adultery. Children don’t need to be exposed to all that drama.

  19. OMG. I am truly a fan of Atlanta Housewives, actually I like all of the Housewives shows (Orange County, New York, and New Jersey. I hope they do one for Chicago. Seriously, As for the situation with Mrs. Hartwell, well, I never. I hope their custody case ends up back in front of the original judge or one similar. I think it is absolutely in the best interest of Justin and Jordan if they remain with their father, Keith. I think there is something to be said for a mother who puts her own desires, needs, and wants before the children she gave birth. Then she has the audacity to ask for child support if she is granted custody. IS SHE SERIOUS?? Her pleadings to the court are just as ingenuine as she is, seriously. The fact that she would want to exploit her children like that bothers me to no end. I lack any compassion or empathy for her. I truly hope that the judge looks past Mrs. Hartwell fakeness and leave the children where they belong……..with their father.

    A sister in Chicago keeping it real.

  20. It is not that serious, these are celebrity kids so they never get to hide from the spotlight anyway. They are thrown into the spotlight at birth with or without a television series. He didn’t sign a wavier but it doesn’t matter. Everybody still knows that they are lisa’s kids, so if she comes out looking bad on the show, it is still going to reflect on them. All the kids do for the most part, (who are on the show), is sit, eat, play, shop, and sleep. You don’t need protected from that, lol. They barely get camera time, it was not that serious. He was trying to make her look like a bad mom who is never with her kids, not protect them, and she knows that. So if I was her, I wouldn’t even sweat Sweat, let him do what he feels he needs to do.

  21. Hmmm I think Lisa is absolutely gorgeous and that’s why she has scored these high-end men,she’s absolutely adorable and smart lets sit back and think how it’ll feel if these things were being said about you, I’m really feeling shameful as a woman to sit back and see how you can diss another woman because of her dating men with money, honestly would you date a guy that’ll mooch off of you? I tried that”I will love you just because” and it doesn’t always work because they doesn’t realize that your money is to be done with the way you want it. The guy I dated was complely broke and annoying he complained about everything”food,hotels,clothes,etc.” It gets sad and boring if a man can’t bring food to the table then he should work at it and not mooch and complain about what he doesn’t haveLOL totally off the subject but I’m just making my point of Lisa just so happens2 be a beauty and bright so that’s maybe why she scores the paid brothas..oh well so-be-it I Love You Lisa and stay just as you are..all women has blown up on sum1 at a point of a time so ..blah BLOGS! Whatev’ smoochiez ‘Wu Girls’@(^-^)@

  22. It amazes me that people are actually on here fighting via cyberspace about a woman and a man and their children – none of whom they know personally.

    Whether Keith Sweat was abusive or not, he has every right to keep his children out of the view of the camera. And Lisa’s housewives show is hardly appropriate for any child to be on. So give the man some credit as a father for not cosigning his children’s participation in the show. At best, it’s adult real-life comedy. Notihng more.

    Lisa, as their mother, had every right to want them on the show but her and their father couldn’t come to an agreement. Period. She’s doing fine without them on there. Leave those children alone. Lisa, as a character on the show since that’s how we ALL know her, is cool with me. Enough said.

  23. Yes, I agree with Vanjae….Lisa was also my favorite out of all the housewives on the show. Simply because she was actually doing her own thing. She’s a busy body who actually WORKS. Obviously she’s doing well for herself because she own several businesses of her OWN. She don’t depend on a man as a sugar daddy like a cast member that we know of, nor does she just sits on her ass. Keep doing your thing Lisa!!! You’re going to always have haters (Lookout), that are too ignorant and/or narrow-minded to see and appreciate accomplishments made by those who once struggled.

  24. To you Ms. Lookout I am really tired of men getting the “go ahead” from society just because of their runway status. You must not be a mother and if you are you must be either one with low class, slippery draws, or extremely dirty knees. No woman with even half of a brain would give KS a minute of “props”. He was an abusive controlling husband and probably won full custody of the kids due to making an extra gift into the judge’s “charity fund” or are you one of those naive ppl who still believe in good hearty fair American justice. Whatever the reason was it was really none of the public’s business. The issue was between KS and LH and should stay there. Who are you or anyone else to judge her merits? I don’t see the show affecting NeNe’s kids, or Sheree’s kids, or Kims’ kids! It is all in how you raise them. Have you ever heard anything bad about Will Smith’s sons? No but they are in the media. Stop hating on LH for having what you are trying to get and start praising her for overcoming her obstacles and climbing her mountain. Oh yeah and on one more note. How is it you have so much advise to tell the “brotha’s” to watch out? Is it because you are a gold digger and are just hating that someone with more class and sophistication is where YOU have yet to rise to? It is just funny how so much intelligence has caused you to have such a major lack of character.

  25. What is so wrong with Lisa wanting to have her other sons on the show? I didn’t even know they existed until now! Keith is being selfish & she’s the mom, she should make the decisions. She is married to a wealthy man but without him, I believe she would still be able to live happily & continue being successful. To Lookout: hello hater! She is not a groupy. U shouldn’t put labels on ppl. U asked why does she have to use Keith’s name in ths senario. Maybe because he is the father, not because of status. Keith Sweat is not a man to brag about. I see Lisa as a strong woman. IF U CAN’T OFFER CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM JUST DON’T SAY ANYTHING AT ALL.

    • Way to tell it like it is. Go lisa keep doing big things girl and have more babies for ed he love and respects u . And hi hater (lookout ) hype is spelt HYPE not HIPE

    • Lisa just PRAY! God has all ur answers’ seek him first! Don’t put ur trust in man nor woman… they can’t help u,,,, only God! can…”The Bible says…Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your understanding; In all your ways Acknowledge Him, And He will make your path straight” Aman! We all must remember that this is a family & is in need of Mega prayer & that the children is the Most important part in this custody…. CALL & Give it all 2 JESUS! HE’LL BE RITE THERE!!! PRAISE GOD!!!

  26. i applaud you lisa,and i dont give props to keith sweat he abused her,and i dont condone that at all,you keep being a strong women and enjoy your family.

  27. BIG UP TO MY BROTHE kEITH I HAVE ENOUGH RESPECT FOR YOUR MUSIC AND YOUR STAND ON NOT OVEREXPOSING YOUR KIDS TO UNNECESSARY TABLOID. TO THE EX WIFE – GET A LIFE SISTER , NOTHING PERSONAL THPOUGH
    fABE

  28. Bad press is better than no press at all, Lisa would think. I believe this woman would show her dirty draws on TV if it would get her any air play or comments in cyber space, sad, sad, sad.

    We’ve all seen what TV does to children, black and white alike so why would you want to expose your loving off spring to something so devastaing, unless of course you were a money hundry witch of a mother. A child is impressionable and when you hipe it up that he/she can be the next child star, well of course that kid is going to want to be with you and feel that the other oposing parent is hurtful and wrong for not letting them have the opportunity, but who would put on that child but someone like “Lisa”, what a rotten parent and what a manipulative !@#$@%.

    If you’re going to be sucessful at all, by now you would show some type of sucess and the children wouldn’t be an issue in the sucess. THINK PEOPLE, THERE HAS TO BE A REASON THE JUDGE RULED IN HIS FAVOR for placement of the children.

    One more question, why does she have to use Keith’s name at all in this whole senario, is it because his name get’s attention, the attention she so desparately seeks, Hmmm? Get your own life groupy, stop using people and your own children, all California people aren’t heartless pimps like this one, well ok, many are but not all LOL. I wonder who’s next on her list, watch out brutha’s, don’t fall into this trap.

    • Lookout, are your initials K.S.? I’m just sayin’… You seem so thoroughly invested in this drama. I guess you’re not alone. I’m reading all these posts. I’m bored and avoiding my workout tonight. What’s your excuse?

      • Well Sab, as you can see, I’ve not been on here in a while so I just noticed your reply. I would say I made an intellegent observation after reading these and other post on other sites, you can understand intellegent right? Compared to what I’ve read, I’d say my comment was intellegent. So tell me are you one of these women who need to have a man with money and fame to have a name? I see it all the time, I understand your sympathetic feelings for your sista. Keep working out, it may help you yet. Oh one more thing, my name is not KS, but I do have a brothers back.

    • To you Ms. Lookout I am really tired of men getting the “go ahead” from society just because of their runway status. You must not be a mother and if you are you must be either one with low class, slippery draws, or extremely dirty knees. No woman with even half of a brain would give KS a minute of “props”. He was an abusive controlling husband and probably won full custody of the kids due to making an extra gift into the judge’s “charity fund” or are you one of those naive ppl who still believe in good hearty fair American justice. Whatever the reason was it was really none of the public’s business. The issue was between KS and LH and should stay there. Who are you or anyone else to judge her merits? I don’t see the show affecting NeNe’s kids, or Sheree’s kids, or Kims’ kids! It is all in how you raise them. Have you ever heard anything bad about Will Smith’s sons? No but they are in the media. Stop hating on LH for having what you are trying to get and start praising her for overcoming her obstacles and climbing her mountain. Oh yeah and on one more note. How is it you have so much advise to tell the “brotha’s” to watch out? Is it because you are a gold digger and are just hating that someone with more class and sophistication is where YOU have yet to rise to? It is just funny how so much intelligence has caused you to have such a major lack of character!!!!

      • If both parents are not in agreement on the children being in a reality show then that is that, Lisa has been doing perfectly fine without exposing her older children on the show for two season so what does adding them now gain her, nothing. Keith Sweat my have been verbally abusive as Lisa claims, but she knows as well as he does that not putting the children on the show was a good decision, and the judge had every right to rule in his favor. So many children are put in these shows to help boost the parents bank account at te end of the day not all children are affected by these shows, but just as many that are not affected are those that are affected. Do you really think that throwing a camera in a childs facing for long period of time is a good idea just cause you want something entertaining to watch is a good idea, don’t think about the moment, think about the long term effect of “child stars”. Just as few names for example, Lindsay Lohan, Brittney Spears, Jamiee Foxworth (Family Matters), Mia Campbell, Danny (Patridge Family), Jon and Kate Gosselin children, Brooke and Nick Hogan.

    • First of all Lookout, you should really learn how to spell and collect your thoughts before you sit down and discuss someone else’s life. Secondly, I dont think that it was about her using the children for fame, she just wanted the show to represent her entire family instead of just part of it. On the show, it seems as though she only has one child instead of three children……I think that was the point. And by the way, just because a woman is ambitious, does not mean that she is money hungry (hundry as you put it). She has things that she wants to accomplish and aspirations that she wants to fulfill just as he did with that whining ass singing career he had. In short…..I completely disagree with you and you need to get a life!……..YOU GO MISS WU-HARTWELL!

      • I just wanted to commend you for noticing the spelling errors!!! LOL It’s always funny when someone says they are “intellegent”…
        ROTFL

        It doesn’t really matter to me whether Lisa’s children are put on the show or what her motivation is…I just couldn’t handle “lookout” bragging about her intelligence, all the while making so many grammatical and spelling errors!!!!

        Good day to you K Markssan!!!!

      • Hi KMarkssan, your comment was really refreshing. Actually several comments. Ppl have to first walk in someone else’s shoes before they can accurately comment. I felt the poster ‘Lookout’ was really harsh. First of all how do we know Keith got full custody? My ex-husband & I live in separate states and our son lives with him. Ppl always assume he has custody. No we have joint custody. I just felt like Lookout was trying to insinuate that Lisa has this ‘evil past’ and that’s why her kids don’t live with her. That’s so sad how ppl try to make themselves look like a better mom by putting another mom down. Lisa obviously is not trying to hide her other kids. She obviously wanted the world to see she has two older sons who she loves just as much as EJ. I think Keith could have let her older sons be on one episode just briefly. But I understand his side too. But Lookout was talking as if she was in the court room during their divorce and she talks to Lisa’s older sons personally.

    • What simple silly women wrote these post? Keith had the money and therfore got the children, I bet the women who wrote these post don’t have children or have a babies daddy and not an ex-husband with assets. Lisa is a business women and seems to even have a good heart which is rare. I am a business women and have a heart. Her thought process was probably to give her children healthy expossure for the future or even just to show her beautiful kids. I don’t understand women who try to judge other women without even knowing what a sister has been through. Simple and silly is what that is. Let’s put your background in the public and see what people have to say about you!!! Educate yourself!!!!

    • jus because the judge granted him custody doesnt meant that she was a bad mother. i have a friend who is going throught the same thing and she is a very good mother. she is going through da situation cause her childs father lied and slandered her name. so that doesnt make her a good or bad parent. there is always 2 sides to a story.

  29. Funny, how people can get so excited en entwined by a smartly engineered tv show and some strangers’ experiences and choices in life. Very amusing and entertaining indeed. There is actually great material here for a follow-up new tv show. Something identical to an after party, but in this case, this would “The Real After TV Show Blog”. And the much spoken Mrs Lisa Wu-Hartwell and colleagues could actually star this new show.

    What do you think, could that work?
    I leave this blog with a smile.
    Thanks,
    :-)

  30. Keith Sweat made the right choice. If his kids were on the show questions about him would come up. The kids which are not her present husband’s kids do bring about questions & ideas like:

    1.Why we never new her before now if she was married to Keith Sweat?When I learned that she is Keith Sweat’s ex-wife I began to think she is a gold digger because he has never been attractive. ALTHOUGH THE KIDS ARE BEAUTIFUL!

    Her oldest son is 13 and my guess is she is about 30 (since her husband turned 30 on the show)so she had a kid around 17! She MUST have been a groupie. She IS beautiful & she used that to get the men now she’s using their money to get the so called businesses she constantly talks about and also pay her way into Hollywood.

    ALL SHE HAD TO DO WAS GET THE MONEY THEN IT’S EASY TO MOVE UP FROM THERE!

  31. To me Lisa presented herself in a very deceitful way by giving the impression that the child she had was her only kid. She didn’t come out and say it but it was how she presented herself during the show. Yes she is very pretty and she has a lot going for her–personality, smart, and she “appears” to genuinely love her husband. But she did sound kinda’ surprised when Hartwell says he was being picked up by Oakland. She seems to hang around alot of celebrities. But more power to her: work your game girl!!

  32. Lisa Wu Hartwell-

    After hearing some of the threats this woman has made, she should be in jail. In addition, this is great evidence to substantiate that the best interest of the older children is for them to be in the custody of their father. Clearly, she is not stable if she cannot control herself.

  33. THIS SHOW SHOULD BE CALLED ‘THE REAL GOLDDIGGERS OF ATLANTA. I HAVE WATCHED THIS SHOW AND I HAVENT SEEN ONE HOUSEWIFE…

  34. SHES AN EX GROUPIE HO FOR REAL. SHE FILED FOR BANKRUPCTY LSAT YEAR AND I BELIEVE THE RUMORS SHES WAS ON DRUGS AND LOST HER KIDS.

    YOU GOT TO BE AN AWFUL MOM TO LOSE YA KIDS TO KEITH SWEAT

  35. But Miss E that’s the point. You made the statement about not judging a book by its cover yet these books have been opened for all to see. I don’t care how much you edit I’m reading Golddiggers all except Ne Ne. Lisa is hard working but she has to be her husband has not been picked up my another team yet. Yea she got a phone call saying he was picked up by Oakland yet he’s not listed on the roster. The book reads to me fake. Lisa is sooooooooooo fake and if you missed her backstabbing move on Ne Ne then I don’t know how to explain it to you. She talk out the side of her mouth and then gets on TV talking about not having drama. Itch you started it. If you were such an upstanding person you wouldn’t talk behind your friends back as well, yet there she was talking behind Ne Ne’s back. How can you not see the double standard? Is it because she soooooooo pretty to most of you you are blinded by that? I think underneath her is a real con artist. Rumor has it her real estate co is busted. Power couple my azz. Power people have people coming to them not the other way around. And maybe just maybe if she put a little more effort into one thing instead of trying to be broker, fashion godess, movie mogal, then she would succeed even more.

  36. I look at this situation as a day in the life of real people that we all can relate to. We all can relate to being one of these personalities or having a girlfriend that is like one of these ladies.

    To say all of these things that I’m reading about these women is totally wrong because we are looking at the edited-producer’s drama approved version. Its funny how we can get on the internet and judge people we don’t know, yet its people we see and deal with everyday and you can smile and laugh with them knowing that you were just hating on them too seconds before. Like the old saying goes “don’t judge a book by the cover” you don’t know these ladies backgrounds or trials and tribulations to understand what or why… another thing this is usually what happens when you put any amount of women around each other; personalities and estrogen fly. Attitudes clash and that is all a part of how you pick you close friends, associates, and enemies. Get with it people its called life so live it. If we all were the same this world we be so boring it would stop turning. That does not make a person bad, they are just not good for you. So lets not judge others because our grass has not been trimmed yet. Need a landscaper?….

  37. Pac4lyfe…we here (2 fingers to the eyes) on Lisa. The fact that she’s always trying to paint herself as the victim of a bad relationship makes her very suspect to me. I think she uses her looks to game men and women. I will say whether she has any substance beyond her looks and ability to chase paper remains to be seen. All I see right now is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. Big Papa had a point when he said if she was in such a bad relationship before why would she rush right into her next relationship after only knowing this man for a month and a half…she didn’t want to let that paper go to the next woman…that’s why. For the life of me, I can’t understand why people are so malicious towards DeShawn. People kill her on the Bravo blogs. Maybe they’re jealous that she has a good man and plenty of money to go around. I don’t know, but it disturbs me because she seems genuinely kind. I don’t have the hostility that most have towards sheree. She’s going thru a divorce and I think she’s bitter and doing her best to keep her self-esteem in tact. I wouldn’t bother trying to be friends with her because I do find her to be very catty and competitive, but I don’t think she’s as bad as people think she is. I don’t pay much attention to Nene and Kim.

  38. DeShawn went to college!?!? Honestly, I’m surprised. What school was this, part-time at the local community college? She is a complete ditz, at least she sounds/acts it. And why does she always seem to be so nervous? Just odd.

    What was priceless the other night though was when NeNe said to Deshawn: don’t worry about the lemon, I know you wouldn’t know how to cut it or you wouldn’t know where the knives were. Hilarious!! I had to rewind several times on that one.

    Let’s face it, these women have money but very little, if any, talent. The guy in next episode’s preview said it how it is: these women think just because they have money they can run successful businesses. But, it takes smarts and business savvy in addition to capital. Yes, all of them claim to have foundations and businesses of their own. But, (1) they wouldn’t have them without the financial backing of their main squeezes (thus they can’t claim true independence) and (2) even with the financial help, it seems that most, if not all, of these businesses and foundations aren’t doing all that well. Cases in point: DeShawn’s “fundraiser” which resulted in a net loss, Kim’s “singing” career and Sheree’s “fashion extravaganza.” The jury’s still out on Lisa’s talent or lack thereof. Truth be told, Sheree has the most sense out of all of them if you ask me; although she’s got issues because of her childhood (but, again, who doesn’t). As for the rest of them, they’re c-l-u-e-l-e-s-s.

  39. Tina Eastern – Since you know Lisa so well, shouldn’t she have your contact info? If so, she would call you from time to time. And how is it that your nephew got engaged to her but just up and decided he wants a woman with her own money? He should have known that before the proposal.

    There is nothing you or anyone else can say to make me put all the blame on Keith. People always want to make women the victim. And this opinion is coming from a woman. He may have been a control freak but I’m sure Lisa wasn’t the perfect wife people are assuming she was.

  40. And I give Lisa and Ed credit for attending different functions that people invite them to but these 2 kisses Sheree’s butt in my opinion.

  41. I watch the “Real Housewives of Atlanta” (and the previous series) faithfully because it’s irresistible. However, I’m fully aware of editing and the fact that we only see what the show’s producers and editors want us to see.
    Lisa Wu Hartwell comes across as bright, focused, funny, and in love. More power to her and her husband for all of the businesses and accomplishments they share! I also learned that she has written movies and I think that’s fantastic. It’s probably good that her older sons were not on the show; imagine being a teenager and having your life “edited” for reality tv. How messed up would that be, not to mention when you’re already not even living with your mother. So I think it’s healthy that they are left out of it.
    Anyway it’s a fascinating show and I have to agree that the majority of the time, these Atlanta women come across as shallow, unclassy, materialistic, spoiled, and confused. Kim’s “singing career” is a perfect example of someone thinking that money can buy her anything. The woman can’t match pitches, she can’t keep a tune, how will she have a singing career that is real? No way!

    The in-fighting and backstabbing is very “junior high” and I thought we grown women are beyond that. The Atlanta “housewives are horrible to each other. If that’s friendship, leave me out!

  42. At least Lisa is willing to work and try different ventures and take advantage of opportunities that come her way so she can advance her family. She is in a marriage where she is “adding on” through her ability to generate money as oppose to “subtracting”. She obviously is not afraid to get out there and hone her skills and work hard. In my opinion, from what I’ve seen from the show; Lisa is not just sitting there like Deshawn, contributing nothing and cleaning her husband’s bank account out at the same time with estate managers, chefs, governess, plate washing, etc. Deshawn is home all freaking day with no JOB, no ambitions, no career plans. Running a fake, self-serving charity, which probably only consumes 4 hours, every month of out of her wasteful day and she can’t even wash a dish with her lazy tail! Every scene of RHOA I seen Lisa busy, getting up out of bed working hard, making things happen for herself and her family. The only person I’ve seen on the show providing any assistance to Lisa is a child care provider. This woman does not appear to me to be wasteful of her time or her families finances. I say kudos to her and I wish her much success.

  43. I’ve read some other blogs that say that Kim’s Big Poppa is Lee Najjar a multimillionaire real estate developer who is married with 2 children.

  44. I think all of the women on the show are special and unique in their own way. I really like Lisa and DeShawn. They seem to be very classy and always maintain a lady-like demeanor. All women have been through some bad relationships and we all are dealing with some issues of our own, so don’t be sp hard on Lisa. I mean she has her own thing going on (the baby clothing line, jewelry and real estate). DeShawn has her foundation that is very positive and she’s raising her three boys. Having her husband gone for months at a time can be rough, but she’s handling her business. Ne Ne is just plain ole real. I think we all can see a little of ourselves in her. She’s very opinionated, outspoken, honest and very funny. I watch the show and she cracks me up. Sheree comes of as very arrogant and the “B” word, but I think she’s a strong woman who has been through some things in her marriage and divorce proceedings. You can see the hurt on her face at times when she speaks of her soon to be ex, and going through that can be very draining on anyone, but she holding her head up and moving on with her life. I wish her the best as well as all of the women on the show. Kim. Well exactly who is she???? I don’t want to make any negative comments, but what is her purpose? Everyone else is a housewife and you see their husband. Big Poppa! What? On a different note she loves and adores her children. Can’t knock a woman for that and she is good looking. Other than that, talk to you all soon.

  45. All I see on here is a bunch off haters!!! How can you hate on any woman that is taking care of her family despite the way she is getting the money!!! Lisa has a beautiful personality and spirit as well as Deshawn!!! Kim is trying to find herself like most women who have so much of free time!!! Nene is Nene, she appears to be like cool peeps and she just don’t take Bullsh**! She is still doing her and she has been through much and she is trying to get past that. Sheree is simply doing what most divorced women do as soon as they are divorced, get heard she’s trying to do everything without the boundaries of a husband, yes she is very strong minded and confident but as women we should all be that way. And maybe you all forgot that most realities are scripted and these characters are told to add a “little extra” so remember that the cat fight may not be real and what reality show does not have a cat fight???? It’s called acting, drama??? hello people these are women doing their thing!!! Go ahead girls!

  46. I am all for the freedom of speach, however please proof before you post!!!!!! There are WAY TOOOOOOOO MANY TYPOS!

  47. Why would it matter? She is exotic and she is half Chinese regardless of how close/distant she is from her father. Since when is it a problem to rep who/what you are? Fatima, please.

  48. Lisa is a Kimora Lee Simmons wannabe….pushing her Asian half. Lisa keeps mentioning her Chinese father. Maybe she really is close to him and her Chinese-half, but I think she’s using it as a marketing angle to make herself exotic.

  49. ADVERSARY PROCEEDING NO. 05-6331

    quote:
    The following facts are undisputed according to the proposed pretrial order. The Debtor
    is the ex-wife of the Plaintiff. The Debtor was and is the sole shareholder and director of Black
    Ball, Inc., a Georgia corporation created for the purpose of holding and owning the movie, “Black
    Ball.” The Plaintiff entered into a written agreement with the Debtor and Black Ball, Inc., whereby
    he loaned the Debtor $150,000 to help fund production of the movie. The agreement contained
    terms for repayment of the loan, as well as terms for the distribution of compensation of profits and
    restrictions on the sale and licensing of the movie.

    unquote

    only an extract

  50. Tina Eastern you know your talking bulls**t. If Keith was such a bad husband and beating Lisa why would she go to him to LEND her money to finance her movie (which stunk) and WHY would he lend her the money to make her film. Am I talking rubbish, NO I AM NOT, google “lisa wu sweat, keith sweat” and it will bring up court documents which prove this and the documents state that the fact that it was a loan was “undisputed facts” of the case. Again I state if things were so bad between them when they divorced or during their marriage, why would she have gone to such a person for a loan and if he was so bitter why would he have loaned her the money. The problems between the two I would say (and I am only guessing) stem from her dishonest dealings over this loan arrangement and the fact that he had to go to court to get his money back. I’m Just Saying

  51. Let’s say all you said is true?

    Ok ?? you say look at her now ?? what about her ?? I lived in Long beach CA for years and Hawaii for years I seen girls that look like Lisa working at 7/11 or at the gas station they came a dime a doz.

    What it is you have country gold tooth dumb jocks that haven’t been anywhere and go nuts over a woman that has her real long hair and she has her REAL HAIR lol

    Look IF Keith Sweat did do those things shame on him, BUT he isn’t here to tell his side either, BUT why on earth would she marry a guy she ONLY knew for 1 1/2 month ?? wouldn’t she be a little more careful about getting marry to a clown she just met IF she just came out of a marriage were she was getting her tail whip all the time ?? and lost her kids ?? either she is a fool or dumb or she is a gold digger and found some clown to save her !!

    You even said, your nephew wanted someone with their own $$, so maybe he didn’t trust her or thought she was up to no good, BECAUSE if he really loved and cared about and dated her that long $$ wouldn’t have matter.

    All the stuff Lisa got came from Ed Hartwell $15 millon contract a few years ago he got with the Falcons since then he been cut by two other teams, WHAT he doing now ?? ( I notice Lisa dance on that stripper pole like that wasn’t her 1st time).

    I also heard Kim know her way around a stripper pole too, ( more to come later on that after I gather more intel).

    Eric Snow wife is a joke she should be trying to find ways to save $$ not spend it on mess she bored and throwing $$ around giving Eddie Long $15,000 for what ?? to fill up his private jet ??

    This is WHY 70% of NBA players are broke 3-4 years after they finish playing ball, most buy condo’s,houses, SUV’s,cars for their wives family and theirs and they marry these hood rats that can’t cook a egg and only know how to do things in bed and shop and buy $6,000 of hand bags and shoes, and keep Sally in business by buying wigs and weaves.

    Kim, is trash nothing but cheap trash she going with some old black guy I think that love some white snow bunny (white chick) or he is a trick or he could have been her pimp lol lol let’s get real what does she do for a living ??
    What get me is WHY these guys with money marry woman like Kim and Ne-Ne and even Lisa with two kids ?? and smoke and drink ??

    Ne-Ne look like she married her husband because she was looking for a Father since she didn’t really know hers and she needed and wanted a Daddy for her goofy over size son, I hate the fact they are calling these chicks woman of Atlanta WHEN NONE OF THEM ARE FROM HERE !!!!

    I was born and raise here I love this city and know many smart, fit in shape woman here that knows how to work take care of their bodies by NOT drinking,smoking so much, or been pass around all over this city.

    Peace

  52. Lisa was a 19 year old back-up dancer when Keith swept her off her feet.She stayed with Keith for years while he beat her, and had children by other women. Lisa didn’t like it, but Keith had the money and was control freak. Lisa couldn’t go anywhere by herself, Keiths mother went everywhere with her thanks to Keith.

    He kept her there by telling her if she left, he’d take the kids, because he was KS, and Atlantans love him. Lisa’s from California, so she had no pull in Atlanta.
    she finally divorced him. He cut her off from the kids and the $$.
    My nephew heard she wasn’t with KS, and brought her to Cali. She fougt KS in court til her funds ran out. He paid people to testify in court that she was a bad mother, when all along, he was the bad father. Lisa was engaged to my nephew (also in the nfl), he chased her til she moved in with him. She’s no gold digger, just a pretty woman who many men would like to get with. Lisa has modeled, wrote a movie that I’ve seen, and it’s good. KS tried to get royalties from the movie. He’s a low down scum bag yall. It’s not Lisa, she’s a good girl. I hung out with her and her brothers and sisters for close to 4 years. Lisa is very ambitious, and I’m so glad Ed has her back. Now she’s free to pursue her careers with no jealous man holding her back. I hope
    she may have a good prosperous life. You see, she’s not afraid of work. As for KS not letting the boys be on the show, he’s just being mean. He only let her bring her boys to Calif. once in the 304 years she lived here. Other than that, she had to fly to Atlanta twice a month to see them (KS doing) Lisa’s parents live in L.A., and can’t see their grandkids thanks to KS. The boys hardly ever see KS, they live with his mother. The boys will probably run away when they get older to be with Lisa. They love their mom, and she loves them dearly. As for my nephew, he wanted a woman who had her own $$$$$. Lisa was broke, but look at her now. So all you haters, leave the girl alone. She’s an actress, and se’s acting.
    ps: Lisa, If you read this, I’ll be in Atlanta August 2009. I’ll try to hook up with you. Tina E. (Reggies mom)

  53. Carlita, I was telling my husband about that yesterday. The look on Dallas’ face was priceless. You could tell he wanted to laugh; but, he played nice. That seen was very reminiscent of the latina on Flava of Love who wanted to get a record deal. They both need to reevaluate their strengths because singing clearly isn’t one of them.

  54. Sad reality being that minorities are still underrepresented and misrepresented in the media. (Sorry, I’m at work and doing too many things to express with clarity.)

  55. tanika, BET was spearheaded to cater to an underrepresented group of people, which is the same reason sites like this exist and thrive. Having a black president alone will, unfortunately, not change this sad reality. Further, even if there was no discrimination in the world (which there will always be) there is nothing wrong with celebrating a distinct culture or group of people, provided it’s done in a way that does not belittle the glory of other groups. This site does not engender hate for others, like some other sites (see KKK websites for example). Instead it celebrates black and brown beauty. Nothing wrong with that!

  56. first of all i love the show. second, i see “not buying it” made some comments about this being the ‘first housewives show w/ any black people besides the 5 seconds of a waiter’ but u cant make comments like this then turn on BET and not see a white person ever, never, no shows, not even any awards will be given out to ANY sort of white people. practice what you preach. i have a lot of white people in my family , but obviously black too. its not only up to white people to stop being so raciest. look at this website! blackcelebritykids! if it was white celeb. kids people would be all over it saying it was discriminating. its 2008, we have a black president, its time to give up on all the judging – black or white we are all people.

  57. Wow, I stumbled across this board while trying to find Wu Girl jewelry. I still haven’t found pictures of it yet, need to search harder!

    I agree with much that has been said here already.

    Lisa is a strong and capable woman. Had she not spilled the beans about NeNe’s song, I wouldn’t see any faults in her television persona.

    I can’t stand Kim. I don’t know how she survives, but she does so I have to chalk it up to my old-fashioned values. Shimmying, rocking the limo with her daughter and her friends left me speechless. Vulgar language. No panties. People speak to her honestly about her lack of singing ability and for whatever reason, she’s not smart enough to listen to them. She’s obsessed with “beauty” which I find her lacking. And she can’t spell!

    My heart goes out to Nene because she doesn’t have a strong sense of self. She’s haunted by an unresolved past when her present and her future are no less than enchanted. She is drinking more, I think, as her past is starting to take over and as her “friends” see her as weak and turn their backs on her. She’s right about Kim, but she doesn’t have to say this out loud. It’s not a sin to keep your opinions to yourself.

    I admire Sheree’s strength. She’s the opposite of NeNe which is why NeNe would be my friend and not Sheree. Sheree is fierce. Kim is fierce in an ignorant kind of way. For some reason, that works. Sheree would not have time for me. NeNe would smells the roses and even see the ladybug on the leaf. :-)

    I see Deshawn as naive, but compassionate.

  58. Lisa you talk a good game you said you wanted all the ladies to get along but you went to Sheree who was not invited to Deshawn birthday dinner and told her what happen what happened at the dinner should have stayed at the dinner you was a dog that carried a bone and i was disappointed in you because i liked you until you did that immature move Since you want to run your mouth tell us why Keith has custody of the boys RUN TELL THAT!!!

  59. I just got around to watching the real housewives of atlanta.

    Kim is a joke she has no talent in singing. I mean is she for real. Dallas need to find a way in telling this woman that she can not sing. Oh my God and I’m with you bigpapa she smoke and drink she’s not even taking it seriously. And Sheree is faking with her that’s not being a friend.

    And I don’t blame NeNe for making fun of her because she turned on NeNe in the worst way so down NeNe is acting out because she’s hurt. I think NeNe is halarious. I like her.

    But NeNe do seem like she may drink a little too much in my opinion.

    And did you all take notice of how Sheree looked at Dallas Austin when Kim mis-spelled CAT. She spelled cat (kat)how embarassing is that. I’m still trying to figure out what Kim have to offer because at this point its nothing as far as I can see. And she’s not even a house wife. No wonder bigpoppa is hiding his identity because this woman is a joke.

    Lisa did not have to throw fuel to fire by going back and telling Sheree something that NeNe said about Kim when she was a little tipsy that’s what you call getting some unnecessar mess started.

  60. History has been made! Barack is the new President Elect!!! We have as a nation joined together and completed a task, it doesn’t matter who you voted for just that for once we all got together and voted. If we can see this, certainly unity is inevitable!!!!

  61. Lisa does not look like an unfit mother whatsoever we all know that if you have alot of money you can win a custody case if you choose to fight for custody. And Keith Sweat has alot of money and I’m sure he had alot more money than Lisa did at that time.

    It doesn’t mean she was an unfit mother and it doesn’t make him the perfect Father either.

    Look at the R. Kelly situation he was found not guilty when the court had all that over whelming evidence against him. And anyone that seen that tape could clearly see that it was in fact R. Kelly. But he bought his way out. He was guilty but he’s filthy rich and he was able to pay the underage girl off as well as her Family. It did’nt make him innocent. When you got money you can make alot of things possible. The same with O.J. Simpson he killed those people but his dream team of lawyers got him off. He was far from innocent. Keith Sweat got alot of money people.

    Lisa Wu Hartwell has not shown America no signs of being an unfit Parent. She appears to be a good mom. She has to abide by the law and her hands are tied in regards to her 2 Son’s with Keith Sweat. Go to her website she explains it all in great detail.

    Keith Sweat is getting way too much credit in my opinion.

  62. I still think it’s embarassing that all they could find in Atlanta were 3 women who are married to (or divorced from) professional ahteletes, and a white woman with a bad weave who has a sugar daddy who wants to remain anonymous (obviously he’s married). Lisa here went from being married to a famous R&B singer, to an NFL player. Just kind of scerams opportunist!

  63. Maryamb-I did not tune in to DL’s show this week I did however tune in to The Larry King show and DL was on there again this week speaking on Obama. But I was just so turned off by DL’s show last week .I just could’nt mustard up the time to watch his show this week I must admit.

    I am so into this Presidential Election right now I must admit that I probably want look at DL’s show again until the election is over.

    Maryamb-I agree with you in regards to most of your comments because our opinions on alot of matters are very simular. So keep doing you.

  64. Wow… First allow me to say that I do know that children are exposed to alot of things that they should not be, however as a parent I feel that it is my responsiblity to impart into my own child’s life before anyone else can. I am a college degeed woman with a “good” job and I have strong morals, I teach my child all of that, and with what I have and what I provide for her she is not starry eyed, over what a person she has never or will never meet has. I know… I know… she is in the minority but if we go back to the principle of “raising” our children and not just watching them grow up maybe we will get better results. White people are judging us constantly but the one’s who are judging are not the ones you see mouthing off on T.V. or the one’s who are rejoicing over our supposed inadequacies, they are the one’s who sit back quietly and wait to see who is not going to vote, they are the one’s who approve programs in our neighborhoods and wait for us not to take advantage of them so that this information can be used at a later date, they are the one’s who know how many scholarships are made available to minorities and not utilitized, they are ultimately the one’s who watch us while we are watching the white people who don’t make a difference. The sad part is that we don’t watch ourselves, we are not conscience of how we portray ourselves on an everyday basis. Think about this there are far more of us walking around daily than there are of us on television if we who participate in everyday society begin to make a change wouldn’t white people be forced to look at us in a different light? The D L’s, Nene’s, Lisa’s, Kim’s, Deshawn’s they are the minority within the minority, Shaqclav, Marylamb, Notbuyingit, Carlita, and even BigPoppa, there are more of us than there are of them if we exercise the right to be intelligent, well informed, and at “PEACE” with ourselves and one another , who can diminish us as a group of people? We have been the strength since the biblical days, what makes us different now is that we no longer take pride in that strength because we have been berated for being who and what we are! I say let’s be us be us all day every day and let them figure out why we can’t be stopped.

  65. Shaqclav- I feel you. I mean I followed The Real Housewives Of Orange County as well and I’ve read the bloggs too. And it seems to me that those Ladies were not catagorized like The Atlanta Houswives. They’ve got a pass.

    I think Lisa Wu Hartwell is a beautiful, intelligent and smart woman. And like I’ve said previously I feel that she’s getting some unfair views. I do feel that Keith Sweat appears to be some what bitter in my opinion.

    I don’t think Lisa is a gold digger she’s just smart. I mean why should’nt she set her standards high. Why do she have to be labeled a gold digger because she wants the finer things in life.

    It is obvious that she work hard she’s not laying around depending on Ed she’s making her own paper.

  66. Ok Maryamd, you can say “whatever” all you want. First of all I was commenting on the fact that people were calling Lisa a gold digger and that people were saying that the ladies on “Housewives” are ghetto. I did not see DL’s show, therefore I was not commenting on that. By the way, I don’t remember saying that I didn’t care how a person made their money. Lastly, I know how the world is and how it works, you’re not telling me anything new. My point again, was that as long as we continue to tear each other down because someone else PERCEIVES someone to be a certain way is wrong. Now if you want to argue that point Maryamb, feel free to do so… by yourself.

  67. BigPappa you obviously have too much time on your hands. For a married man who has time to blog constantly you must not be successful in your marriage. Where’s the wifey while you are blogging and being offensive to someone who probably doesn’t know you?? She sure not taking care of you. Also after breezing through some of your blogs I picked up off of a few things. First you are pitiful; blasting people and putting personal business out or airing any business isn’t mature. I’m sure with a name like BigPappa you are an old fellow!! No one cares how successful you are either. If you were busy half of the time you wouldn’t have time to blog constantly. You should’ve been standing in line voting instead of blogging. You keep reitiratting you have no reason to hate but its obvious you not supporting. So the opposite of support would be hating. Its ashame that most of us MEN don’t have the class it takes to conduct ourselves in that manner which is needed to be viewed as having some business about ourselves. You are below all of us on this site. You forgot the most simplest thing before you starting blogging. I’m sure someone told you at a point if you have nothing good to say then say nothing at all. Also cursing and degrading a person is a sign of ignorance. How successful will you be with that??

  68. While whites may not hold the moral compass of the world they do hold the media in the hands. As long as they have more say so about what is showed on magazine cover and on tv they don’t have to hold the moral compass. They can however continue to use us as scapegoats to deflective negative attention away from themselves onto us. Why do you think when you see the news that they have the blacks on full display with any crime yet with whites they show them on full display when it is something major like the lady in TX that drown her children. I know the color of someones skin doesn’t make them any better or worse than anyone else. However what about children who are young and impressionable? this is who we are worried about. Together we stand divided we fall. If you only care that someone is doing better financially and not about the way they are doing it is that good or bad. They have lots of people getting rich selling drugs is that a good thing? I am not inclined to think so. If you make money off the determent of others how can you feel good about yourself? If you can’t look at yourself in the mirror no amount of money can make up for that.

  69. Shaqclav to you I say whatever. If you think the only reason we are worried about the way we are depicted is because we care about how whites see us you are sadly. The reason I was upset about DL’s show is, because lots of black kids don’t have but one parent at home, or both parents work full time to help make the ends meet. So because they may not get much direction at home they think they only capable of having a better is to get into sports or entertainment. Then they see most of the blacks in the entertainment industry make it by selling themselves short and think that it is ok to do less than what they are capable of. That is what I am worried about more than the way whites see us.

    Did you see being Black in America? It said that black men with a degree have about the same odds as getting a job as a black man with a prison record. That is a very sad thing. I am sure with odds like that even blacks that are trying to make a better life for themselves feel disheartened. All though we may know that the way we are being depicted is incorrect you can’t expect everybody to know and understand that. If that was the case they wouldn’t have these children hurting each other by trying to do the wrestling moves they see on the WWF. If you see how someone is showed on TV and you don’t have anything else to gauge them by how do you know if it is true or not? I know that most of the things celebs wear they don’t even have to pay for, yet you see other people going out and breaking the bank trying to keep up with them. The world has more lambs then shepherds. If the shepherds are not leading them to salvation what are they leading them to? If something is not constructive it is destructive. If you go and read the posts regarding DL’s first show episode you will see a whole lot more negative complaints then positive. Is that because we are hating. If you think that, then may the lord bless you and keep you.

    On Being Black in America DL was saying how he sent his son to the the jewelry store to pick up a package for him because he couldn’t make the trip himself and when he went into the store they called the police on him. Why do you think that is? While I am happy being me not all people are ok with who they are. Case in point look at Micheal Jackson and Lil Kim for whatever reason they have so much self hatred that they lightened their skin and tried to look more European by messing with their faces. Making an ass of yourself in a degrading way is not showing self love, but self hate. At least that is how I feel.

  70. DL~ Sweetie,They gave you the show for a reason. Be you, be funny, You must stay updated on everything! Act like you are doing a Barber Shop interview keep it real! If you had a video cam rolling at any Barber Shop black or white you will get the real and the raw. That’s what they want, “Ratings” Ratings to go up like a balloon, not go down like the Dow Jones stock.(Hello) They see what Bill M. is doing for HBO, My guy Keith O.and now my girl Rachel M. is doing for MSNBC. So they are counting on you my friend,to give them (CNN) that boost. And you just happen to be the same color as this great guy who in two days will be the next President. Good luck!! This is Prime Time using the words of our cocky but O’ so cool Dion Sanders.

  71. Yes BP I saw the show and you can tell they really are trying to tone it down. I said I was going to watch the first 10 mins and if it didn’t look any better than the one before I was going to write in to CNN again until it makes a difference. I think he had Sharpton on the show to try and smooth things over. I know Sharpton feels we should not turn our backs on him but educate him. I just have to say, I am glad it was not as outrageous as the first show.

  72. I just had to come back and recant what I said earlier about DL’s Show. He came on Al Sharptons’ Show and he didn’t sound apologetic in the least. I have wrote in to CNN and if anyone else wants to just click my name on this particular post and it will take you to the comment page for DL’s Show. He basically said he is not sorry for the show and if he isn’t then I say we do what we can to get then to change the format or cancel it.

  73. Its a shame that people leave negative comments about people that you don’t even know. I mean if u don’t have nothing nice to say don’t say anything at all. keith sweat should have let THEIR KIDS be on the show yes he is the father but lisa is also their mother. And no where did they say on the show or anywhere that he has full custody of the kids and I have been watching the show since it started. Also the comment about her being a groupie is uncalled for that lady has a lot going for her self she is definitely a business women and just a rich wife that is just sitting back spending her husbands money she has her own business to fall back on. If u have actually seen the show there are others on there that would be more consider groupies and or gold diggers. so with all that said we don’t know what went on with lisa and keith and all we know is what we see on the show or basically what people say so don’t judge a person if u don’t truly know the person or don’t know what ur talking about because all it ends up being is hear say!!!

  74. she is stunning. Keith should have wish he never lost her. Maybe that’s who he use to whine to in all his songs lol. Cute kids. well 2 of her sons are cute.

  75. Except for the Jill and Romana comparison, I agree wholeheartedly with what you said AsiaA. Jill and Ramona may have gotten a little hype from time to time; but, it was never on the level of the chicks on the Atlanta season. For example, I don’t recall Jill and Ramona calling each other the b word ever; but, I hear that word on almost every episode (if not a couple of times per episdoe) on this season. Point being, these chicks are g-h-e-t-t-o.

  76. &.. back to the post.
    i APPLAUD keith for not putting his children on this show, he is absoutely 100% right when it comes to the editing you dont know how your kids will come out looking. or how YOU will look.
    a few examples:

    kim; went downstairs. . .to the bar & got a drink w| her girl while her daughters & their friends are upstairs. . .
    it cut to a scene when brielle(?) had a knife & said “who wants the knife who wants the knife” showing how unsafe things couldve been while leaving them upstairs. .

    deshawn kids look like they need a spanking. all that yelling & pouting & playing early in the morning when they need to be getting ready for school. . it look like she couldnt control her kids..

    now; that is a few scenes that made me go “hmmmm…” of course those kids may have not been really like that. . because it IS t.v. & it IS editing but you never know…

  77. im not taking this show too seriously, im giving my take on what i think of these ‘characters’ . . i really dont give a damn about either one of these women. im just saying how i see it . & the only thing im taking seriously if anything is the fact that some of these women on this show isnt taking care of their children and too damn busy going to parties & tripping about themselves. i dont like to see children being pushed aside, which i have seen several times on this show. &thats my 2cents. you can either throw it away or spend it.

  78. Wow, some of these comments are so FAR GONE! I can respect any parent that wishes to maintain some sort of anonimity and privacey in their children’s lives…ESPECIALLY celebraties. I really like Lisa, she seems to be the most well rounded one on the show and seems to quite down to earth!

  79. What Keith Sweat is dong is a form of control, Lisa appears to be more than a fit parent and I’m sure that she would not let any harm or negativity be reflected upon her children, like she said, it was a Bad Marriage so obviously there is some animosity, nothing to do with the kids, just hate, and this coming from a huge fan of Keith.

  80. EVERYONE PLEASEEEEEEE GET OUT AND VOTE WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF A VERY IMPORTANT PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. PLEASE LET YOUR VOICE BE HEARD AND LET YOUR VOTE COUNT.

    YOU CAN STILL EARLY VOTE. MY FAMILY AND I EARLY VOTED LAST WEEK AND WE WERE IN LINE FOR ONLY 15 MINUTES AND THE ACTUAL VOTING TIME WAS ONLY A FEW MINUTES.

    THE LINES WILL BE MUCH LONGER ON NOVEMBER 4TH.

  81. Kareem-I feel you apparently you did not read any of my comments regarding Lisa. I for one have stated that Lisa is about her $ and I respect her for that.

    And I also have stated that Keith Sweat appear to not just be looking out for his kids here. I feel that he’s a bitter man and he’s using his children as a weapon toward Lisa.

    Kareem I have to correct you in regards to Lisa’s commission on the house she sold to Jazzy Phae. Her commission is $200,000 not $400,000.

    Please read my comment from October 29th. 14 comments above this one and there are also other comments I have made in regards to Lisa. I have nothing negative to say about her.

  82. I just can’t read anymore, are we all watching the same show. Most of these comments are how much lisa is a bad mother or a gold digger. First when it comes to children from a divorce couple nothing can be done on this scale without the permission of both parents unless one parent has sole custody. So, none of us know if he decided to not let his children be on the show “to protect his children” or to simple be spiteful. Another thing I will agree all of the ladies on the show don’t 100% show african american women in the best light all the time, but I must say when ever they show lisa she is either working or hanging out with her husband. I just don’t see anything negative about that. Lastly, if I recall correctly this woman runs like four businesses, the jewelry line (being picked up by a major jewelry distributor), clothing line, real estate firm (she sold a 4.2 million dollar house to jazze pha, her commission was like 400,000), she paints, models, and writes (which by the way one of the things she wrote was picked up by tyler perry). So people lets stop hating, we get so mad when someone of a different race hates on us, but we love to hate on each other, and for those that think she is with ed hartwell for his money and celebrity, she was married to keith sweat I’m sure she already knows quite a few people and has money. There is nothing on this show that shows her as being a gold digger or groupie. And by the way although there are educated groupies and gold digger they do just enough to get in the game and once there, they spend all of their time forgetting how to work and just sponging off of their significant other just take a look at kim and her big poppa.

  83. Rich B.- I’m feeling your point. I kinda think that its not just about the kids either with Keith Sweat I think he maybe bitter toward Lisa and some of this is coming more so from that.

  84. Maryamb- I have to tune in to see DL show Saturday to see what kind of changes has been made. But right now that sounds like excellent news because like I said previously I am a DL fan.

    Thanks for the update.

  85. I have some good news everyone. The negative press about Dl’s show got back to him and he is asking for a chance to redeem himself. He said he is going to make some major changes to his show. How great is that. We have more power than we realize. If we stick together we can make things happen for our betterment. Someone said that DL doesn’t need us to turn our backs on him that he needs us to give him the proper guidance because he is in a better position to do things for our betterment than most black men. I think the part that surprised me the most is, that he was on the segment about being black in America and said how the stereotypes people place on blacks because the color of our skin caused his son to get the police called on him just because he walked into a high end jewelery store to pick up a package he(DL) himself could not get because he was busy. With that being said you would think he would be doing things to help do away with these negative stereotypes instead of perpetuating them. I feel better knowing that he is willing to fix the outlook of his show.

  86. Rich B, I have to say I don’t know how old his daughters are but if they are teen and are anything like typical teens they will always complain about the parents. Your kids are not necessarily supposed to like you, they have their own minds and ideals and the maturity level they exhibit comes out in how they deal with others who opinions do not match their own. I agree with you that kids need more than material things. They need our love and support and they need us to teach them boundaries. With this they will be lost.

    No matter the reason they chose to not have the kids on the show doesn’t really change the fact that they are not on the show.

    If you don’t mind me asking why did you say you are disappointed in them both?

  87. See this is why I dislike some of these women because Kim & Sheree was quick to speak on why this event was going to be a failure instead of giving Deshawn a little feed back. A helping hand. I mean true friends would’ve not waited for the disaster to happen they would’ve prevented it from happening. But Kim & Sheree are clearly not DeShawn’s friend and that’s sad because DeShawn seem’s to be a sweet person. But she’ll bounce back.

  88. Cmon sistas lets be real. These “characters” are not the best depiction of powerful, successful, strong black women. I am not at all inspired. Tonight’s episode was the most disappointing of them all. I hold the all responsible for Deshawn’s event failure. Sheree said she felt someone should have pulled Deshawn aside and talked to her about the poor planning of the gala. Well why didn’t Sheree do it, as it was obvious that she is better experienced in that department? I think its awful that out of all of them no one offered to help Deshawn make it a success but had a mouthful when it failed. I am not at all impressed by their over the top lifestyles because none of that is important. What is important is getting the most out of life by what you put into it. They are all just so self absorbed and pretentious that it is sicking. They can all take a lesson from Oprah’s example of empowerment and she has more money than all of them. Sistas we have got to do better.

  89. Did yall catch the new episode of Real Housewives Of Atlanta tonight?

    I am so over Kim back stabbing. I mean she is so far up Sheree’s you know what until it is sickening.

    I thought NeNe was her best friend now NeNe is the worst person in the world to her now. How many times did Kim tell Sheree she was beautiful?

    Beautiful is not the word that I would use when describing Sheree. She’s ok. I would call DeShawn beautiful before I would call Sheree. And I think Lisa is pretty as well.

    And I felt sooooo bad for DeShawn and her Fund Raiser. I felt like it was poorly planned and I feel that it was because she was maybe inexperienced in planning an event like that. But I truly hope she can do it again soon but hire someone that is more experienced in putting together an event of that callibur. But she seems to be such a good person and her Husband truly has her back.

    Lisa I must give her her props because she know how to make that money. She has that drive that is needed to succeed. And her Husband in those speedos looked kind of like hes stradling both sides of the fence if you know what I mean. That video should’ve remained hidden. Lisa was obviously embarassed.

    NeNe is right to be done with Kim & Sheree.

  90. Maryamb- That’s great that you have taken on the responsibility in regards to the 9 year old I feel so sorry for kids that are placed in these unfortunate situations. I love children they are my weak spot. And bi-polar is a serious disorder.

    And 4 kids by 4 different men that is serious within it self. And she’s been married 4 times. WOW.

    I’m with you I feel sorry for them all. But good looking out though. God Bless Them All. You will be blessed in return.

  91. Okay enough already in regards to Keith Sweat not letting his Kids go on the show I don’t see the big deal. I mean he’s letting the world view pictures of his kids online why not let them make some money and put them on the show. Millions of people are coming to this site viewing their photos everyday. It’s not like people can actually get to these children. These celebrity babies are guarded like Presidents. I bet you will never ever hear about Kimora Lee kids coming up missing and everyone in the world knows Ming Lee & Aoki.

    Don’t get me wrong I do understand if you are really and truly trying to protect your childs identity but in this particular case with Lisa & Keith Sweat everyone knows what these kids look like whats the point. They have nothing to worry about but us every day ordinary people we are the ones that have to worry more about our children because most of us do not have the financial means to put our kids in top notch Schools and provide them with personal security.

  92. Did a little research on Lisa Wu-Hartwell. Does not show that she is a active real estate broker in Georgis. I don’t know but something smells a little fishy!!

  93. Carlita girl you just do know how true your statement was. The last line about men to need to watch the kind of women they get involved with, really hit home. My neighbors’ are having a hard time. The husband just found that the wife is cheating. She is Bipolar, has 4 kids by four different men. Has been married 4 times. She is meeting men online and having affairs. The most disturbing thing about all of this is the fact that her husband caught her cheating because he followed her to the hotel to met the other man and she had taken their 2 year old daughter with her to see this man she met on the internet. The man could have been a molester, murder or anything. She doesn’t take her meds to help with imbalance because she is so unstable she thinks she is fine. When she goes into her manic phase she gets so loud we can hear her across the street. Her kids are afraid of her. She mentally and physically abuses her husband, sometimes in the front of her kids. I told him I knew she was off after about the second or third time after meeting her, how did he not see something was wrong with her? She gave her son away because she went away on one of her sabbaticals and left the child with his dad, and while she was gone the dad died and child was in the house with his dead dad for 2 days before anyone found out. The child was so traumatized it took him a long time to even start talking.

    I take care of their 9 year old daughter and I feel so sorry for those kids. I think that people with mental illnesses need to be forced to have some kind of birth controlled in place because the kids suffer and they don’t realize that their parents are the way the are because that can’t help it. It is really sad. Before I realized she was Bipolar, I wanted to go straight hood and beat the crap out of her for the pain she was causing her family. Now I just feel sorry for them. They need help. One of my friends is a Dr. and she is helping her husband get her committed until she get enough of the meds in her system to stabilize her mood swings. I thank God I am not her.

  94. Maryamb- I am in agreement with you in regards to writing in to CNN that’s an excellent idea and I will do exactly that.

    Maryamb- I also agree that we need to be alot more careful regarding the company we keep around our youngsters I mean these kids depend on us to protect them. And before anyone start with the ugly comments I am not suggesting that what happened to Julia Hudson Son was a result of anything that she did just understand I am not saying that. All I am stating is that we are living in a place and time where you have to literally do a back ground check on a potential mate these day’s when you meet someone because you really have to know who you are bringing around your loved ones. In this Jennifer Hudson situation this estranged Husband of Julia Hudson had a very long criminal record. I mean he spent 7 years in prison for attempted murder however Ladies we can’t expect a man with a track record like that to be up front with us. It is our responsibility to protect ourselves and our loved ones. I just had this conversation with a Family member a couple of day’s ago. “Sometimes” women is blinded by love and they lose focus.

    Not only are we opening the door for something bad to happen to us as women but we can not be so naieve to think that this can’t happen to you and your Family.

    I know from experience and I thought that I was extremely careful. I mean nothing to the extreme of what Jennifer Hudson and her Family is going through. But I ended a relationship with a guy that I was with for a few years. I ended it made myself clear with him and I moved after I ended the relationship.And a couple months after I ended the relationship with him he goes searching for me at my Mothers home and every relative home of mine he had been to with me during our time of dating. Luckily he eventually moved on with his life but that was a valuable lesson I learned as a woman. You have to be careful who you are exposing your loved ones to because a bad relationship can sometimes effect the closest people to you. It does’nt get any closer than your own child and mother and brother as Julia Hudson is going through right now. I’m willing to bet that this person intentionally did not harm a hair on Julia Hudson body because they or he wanted her to live and suffer and that is horrible.

    And people this is the kind of world we are living in. We have to change the way we view things. Times have changed and our Children are coming up in a cruel world than the one we grew up in unfortunately.

    However I will definately keep Julia & Jennifer Hudson as well as the rest of The Hudson Family in prayer because this is extremely hard what this Family is going through right now.

    Lastly I also want to say that Men also have to be just as careful when getting involved with women. I mean this goes both ways.

  95. I have to say I agree with all of the comments about DL’s show. I would love if everyone who seen the show and feels the same way would write in to CNN and tell them how they feel. I think it would make a big difference in the depiction of us if all banded together to stop all the stereotypes.

    Carlita I was so angry when I saw that the Julian was found dead. That was a senseless crime. We can not protect our kids from all the dangers of the world, however we need to be more careful of the company we keep when have kids. My heart goes out to Jennifer and Julia.

  96. I like Lisa she is a beautiful woman. And I don’t think that if her boys with Keith Sweat was on the show that it would hurt them or overexpose them. She has visitation so its not like they would be on tv everytime the show comes on. I respect keith’s decision however I disagree with it as well.

  97. Bigpapa- I do agree with you in regards to the DL Hugley Show on CNN. I watched him on Larry King before the airing of his new show. And I was really disappointed with his show. I am a DL fan but I will not be tuning into this weekly mess of a show. I thought by it being on CNN it would have great substance but it did’nt. Just your typical stereotypical mess.

    pac4lyfe- I did catch the comment that Lisa made stating that NBA WIVES are snootier than the NFL wives and I find it funny too considering that DeShawn is the most down to earth one out of the bunch. But this show is my guilty little pleasure and I can’t wait to watch the next episode. I am really disliking Kim right now what a back stabber she is turning out to be.

    Not Buying It- I totally agree with you in regards to the Halle Berry situation. People are quick to pass judgement. Who knows why her relationships did’nt work out. Whatever the case may be no woman deserve to be physically abused.

    Maryamb- I have been glued to the TV hoping to hear some good news regarding Jennifer Hudson’s Nephew but sadly her Nephew was found dead. So we really need to keep Jennifer Hudson as well as Jennifer Sister and the rest of the Hudson Family in our prayers. I just can not phathom what this Family is going through To lose 3 members of your Family all at the same time. God Bless Them All.

  98. Not Buying It – You are so right. That money could be gone the next day. I guess Sheree can sell all of her shoes on ebay if that settlement doesn’t go the way she is expecting.

  99. pac4lyfe: I didn’t catch that comment. But, it strikes me as funny. Those women, even with their money and connections in the entertainment world, would not be allowed to live in certain neighborhoods (which can be illegal; but, still happens) and to frequent certain events becauwse (1) they are new money and (2) they made their money by dribbling and/or throwing a ball. It’s crazy how people have a tendency to always want to separate themselves from the “inferior,” inferior depending on who you talk to. People need to wake up and stop thinking they are better than others, especially when the basis is the dollar bill and not more notable characteristics (e.g., kind heart, loving spirit, generosity).

  100. I don’t want to steer this thread into a totally different topic, but I wanted to add that I think that was a mistake CNN made. Its big for DL to have his own show on there but everything is not a laughing matter. I don’t think we can joke about certain things with white people. Alot of them just wouldn’t get it and they would take it completely out of context.

    Back to the Real Housewives:
    I may not like certain things about a few of the ladies but I stay watching the repeats. I want to see what this next episode is about where Lisa says, “NBA wives are snootier than NFL wives.” From what I see, DeShawn seems the most humble and grounded. Also, she appears to not get caught up in the gossip. As for Kim, I hope she takes that weave out ASAP! Is that a lace wig? And who does the big swoop to the side anymore? I’m talking about how her bangs are swooped all high. I used to do that to my bangs back in the late 80s/early 90s.

  101. Some of these clowns will do anything for a paycheck they will go on a show and tap dance and shine shoes and act a fool on CNN, this is so sad some people around the world will NEVER met or see a black person in their lives, and they turn on the TV and see this mess.

    This is why as I travel the world I try to be on point as a black male.

  102. Yeah Bigpapa I watched it to and I have to say, I will not watch it again. You can but him up there with David Allen Grier his show Chocolate News and DL Hughley show looks a lot a like. I have less respect for them and even more for Chapple. He is the man as far as I am concerned. I hate that they are doing this right before the elections.

  103. I am looking at this DL Hughley show on CNN and with all the black talk shows on the radio, that speak on REAL black topic’s, and they have this show having clowns dress up as P.I.M.P.S. making their eyes all huge and making jokes about rims.

    This is WHY I have got so mad at this show we as black people can’t be on TV unless we are acting like clowns, or showing sisters shopping or talking behind each other backs.

  104. To NotBuyingYou:

    You’ll have to excuse my very late response, as I’ve been very busy at work these last couple of weeks (so had no time for browsing my favorite threads, BCK included). But, I saw your shot out and it makes absolutely no sense. You say that ladybug isn’t hating because the women on the show don’t have Kimora Simmons money… hmmm. I’m going to let you figure out why that argument makes absolutely no sense. Hint, hint: there’s always someone out there with more money and, more importantly, most likely (and I’m 99% sure of this considering Kimora is in the top 1% of the country in terms of income and wealth), ladybug doesn’t have Kimora Simmmons money. Wow, the idiocy!

  105. Maryamb, I think you are oversimplifying the situation. I agree, yes, oftentimes one can see the signs. But, there are definitely situations out there were “you couldn’t see it coming a mile away.” With time, people change (like you said earlier). Sometimes, that change isn’t for the better.

  106. The nephew is 7 years old and the murder was Jennifer’s brother-in-law William Balfour. He is NOT the father of the missing 7 year old. They caught him last night but not the boy.

  107. When I said that Halle wasn’t in the right place mentally I meant if she was she would have seen the red flags before she married said spouses.

    When you are getting to know the person which you are considering to be your partner for life no matter how good they try to conceal their faults the are bound to show themselves in bits and pieces. The real person is behind the facade. You just have to pay attention and not make excuses for their poor behavior.

    Ok say if the person you are with grabs you in such a way because you did something to anger them, yet you say he just did that because I made him angry. You are making excuses. Abusive people become abusive when they become emotional. The proof that Halle wasn’t in the right place mentally when she chose the men she did, is because she chose the wrong men. It is as simple as that.

    You know when the person you are with is cheating long before you find proof. Yet you ignore it and make excuses because you don’t want to believe your own feelings. Yet when you can no longer deny what you have known all along, you start to see the signs of their deceit and you think how could I have been so stupid to not notice this before now?

    It’s the same principal. When you think you deserve to be mistreated you always find a way for someone or thing to prove you right.

    When you believe you deserve better(in the right place mentally) You find things and people to treat you accordingly. Until she made peace with her past she kept choosing men that treated her the way her dad treated her mom because that is what she knew.

    We all replay our past in our current life until we come to peace with it. Once you do then you know that you worthy of the best life has to offer.

  108. For the record, no one on this forum knows why Halle Berry’s relationships didn’t work out. Unless you were married to her, living in her house and in her relationship, you can only speculate about what went wrong. From where I stand, she picked some guys who pretended to be one thing but turned out to be something entirely different after the vows were exchanged. I don’t think her concept of self had anything to do with why a man would think it’s ok to put his hands on her or why another would think it acceptable to sleep around on her. Halle is fabulous and it seems as though she found her perfect mate. Congrats to her!!

    Now, on to Bigpapa, why are you so angry dear? You seem like you have an agenda here. What is it? Are you about empowering obese women to take charge of their health and lives or are you just putting them down? If the latter, why? Oh and for the record, I’m a size 2. So, no I’m not personally offended by your rant. In fact, I thought the first post you made was rather humorous and true to a certain extent. But, now you seem almost cruel.

  109. One more thing Big Joke, Studies show that men who have to travel around the globe to find a mate has been unlucky in love in their own society. Another statistic shows that if you can’t spell you probably have never traveled around the world. News flash if you live in Fulton and travel to Clayton to find a mate that is not around the world. You can change the counties if you like.

  110. Big Floppa or shall I say big flop! I now understand your hostility! and I feel bad for you are almost 6’6, you are almost wealthy, you were probably almost a star athlete (after Ed Hartwell of course) and you can almost write coherently. Didn’t you ever hear Brandi’s song ” ALMOST DOESNT COUNT”. You see I can tell I am most certainly angering you, I have not at one time used any profanity towards you because I am articulate enough to
    make a point without cursing you. Whether I am eating Chicken Wings(love them), Ribs( favorite also) or Fried Fish(not so much) I can convey my points and keep on task! I don’t feel sorry for your wife because while you are on here arguing with us she is probably with her real man not the almost man. Again you contradict yourself you were the one who came on berating WOMEN. If you think I am fat so be it, If you think I am obese horray, but with you I really don’t think it matters because you only always, ALMOST complete a thought. Oh and by the way I got your stupid analogy to ” Big Poppa” but I sincerely doubt that you can write a check for $68,000.00 not that you don’t have the money but because you can only ALMOST spell it out. Her name is JADA not Jade(Will Smith’s Wife). Slim is better it describes the length of you vocabulary!

  111. Oh! and another thing Big Sloppa, again whatever. You seem to contradict yourself, you say Lisa only married Hartwell for the money and the fame but yet YOU keep pointing out that he has not been on an NFL Team in how long? Before you get your page started I suggest you get some therapy.

  112. I think its a beautiful thing to see our people doing well. I guess if they were broke and doing all the wrong stuff, the show would be a great hit. People stop knocking eachother love your people. Yes, Keith is raising his 4 children and thats alright.I tip my hat off to u Keith as far as Lisa keep doing what u do go girl.

  113. Ok why all the hostility? We are supposed to be building one another up not tearing each other down. Everyone has their own personal preferences. Not all men find big women attractive and not all men find little women attractive. I wear between a 6 or 8 depending on who makes the clothes. I however have to say with my second daughter I gain a lot of weight and took a minute to lose it but my husband if he felt any different in the change of my appearance never made my feel anything but loved. I have four kids all by the same man and he is my husband and we have been together for over 11 years. That is real love. What if your wife married you because you had a beautiful head of hair and as you got older she saw less hair and more head would you expect her to love you any less? Why do you think the marriage vows say through sickness and health, through thick and thin? We all go through changes. Change and taxes are the only constant on this journey we call life. The person you marry should love you no matter how you change physically. It is inevitable we all change over the years. That is why the person you choose should have some substance and not just be a trophy spouse. I think my husband is a very attractive, caring, loving, giving and gentle man and I could not see myself growing old with anyone but he. We may not be perfect but we are perfect for each other. My husband was a God send and I thank God for him everyday. I know that because we are both loving toward one another that our kids will grow up to find people that will treat them the way they deserve to be treated. That is something I can truly be proud of.

  114. Bigpapa, would I be wrong for asking if you’re overweight yourself? Your name implies that you are and so I wonder too what your mother and sisters look like. I mention that because you’re filled with such vitriolic hate for women probably much like the one who birthed you. And before you insult me, NO I’M NOT OVER-WEIGHT (and never have been, very health conscious). Bigpapa, countless industries make big $$$ by keeping some of us in the mindset you describe(overweight, ghetto, lazy, etc.), so maybe you’d like to help some of these sisters before you castigate. Btw, you obviously cannot write or speak very well, so one can also assume that your wife has a size six brain because she married …

  115. Big Poppa, Big Floppa whatever! While you are on the blogs pushing your “myspace” page and your advice please keep in mind you are dealing with AMERICAN WOMEN we are taught to be proud, and confident. I am a proud size 14 Woman and I am thoroughly educated I have a wonderful MAN in my life who does not disrespect me. I can not conceive of a MAN who does not have a basic respect for WOMEN trying to give them advice about relationships. I am not sure how your relationship works or how you were able to get a size 4 woman when you don’t have a dime piece mentality but I hope before you start advising you get a P.h.D in humanity and respect of all women not just those from
    your country! Oh and by the way it’s okay if you think I am fat and rude, I seem to be more educated since I do complete ny words.

  116. Bigpapa,

    I don’t want you to think I am being rude. However I have to ask why is this man or any other man or woman that marry the wrong person your concern? You don’t have to live with the consequences of their bad choices they do. Experience is the best teacher. If this man made a bad choice in marrying Lisa time will tell. Then from there it is up to him to learn or not learn from his mistake.

    The outside appearances is not all that matter in picking a good spouse. No amount of money, No amount of education, no matter how nice the body and face look. If the person is not in the right place mentally the marriage won’t work. Look at how many times Halle has been married. She has the body, the face and the money. Her problem is she wasn’t ok with self. If you are not ok with who you are how can you make a good wife, husband or mother for that matter. Looks come and go. But if your head and heart are in the right place that is the kind of thing that will last a lifetime.

  117. I have watched this show, it has become a guilty pleasure and not in a good way. i’m disappointed at all of the women on this show, at least the way they are being portrayed. Sheree Whitfield doesn’t impress me at all, I have no idea what happened in her relationship with her husband, but regardless does she have to act this way? Especially when you have kids. He is being bashed as a man who wasn’t involved with his kids and the courts had to make him visit, whether this is true or not, does America need to know? Kim is ridiculous! She dates a man that cannot be seen with her in public, what is she telling her children? Finally, back on the topic of Ms. Hartwell, I can understand Keith’s viewpoint on not allowing his children to be on this show, Bravo doesn’t necessarily show everyone in a positive light and you do have to guard your children. Many celebrity parents do not allow the media access to their kids, if just for their own safety.

  118. I think Keith Sweat played out ass is jealous of her and her fine husband. If it was his reality show and she was doing the samething to him. Everyone would say she was jealous and she was wrong. Keith is a hater. I like Lisa she is a beautiful woman. And E.J too cute.

  119. I absolutely hate it when African Americans mannerisms are categorized as Ghetto- Its stupid. Who sets the standards of ghetto, what is this ghetto word. We should stop hating each other, ever thing that we do is ghetto eating chicken, ribs, hairstyles!!! because it is being compared to the Caucasian standard of life.. I personally do not think ne ne is ghetto, a little loud maybe, but just because you are vibrant and like to enjoy your life laughing rather than being down does not make you ghetto!! I refuse to compare my self with this American standard, and for Correct grammar- Americans have the worst Grammar- The English/British have the correct grammar if you really give a darn, they hate the way Americans speak. I also hate the ” Weave” thing being ghetto, yes African American have some creative hairstyles, we are not plain Jane’s and that dates far back, but not ghetto!! Whatever makes you look good- Go for It!!. Caucasian women wear hair extensions also!!!!!!! I do think some of the woman may need a reality check or Attitude check- on how to treat people, maybe a little manners. I love this cast, everyone has problems in there life, and if you watched the other Real Housewives shows those women were total messes and flaunted their wealth also- Handbags, new cars, expensive clothes, plastic surgeries!! I just hate it when others let the media Control their way of thinking. Think for yourself, go against the grain!!

    OH- Vote, Vote, and Vote.
    14 days left!!!

  120. I think Sheree’s body is almost too overly toned with that said her body is amazing.

    And DeShawn is a normal size and she do look really good considering she has 3 extremely young kids.

    Lisa works out alot with her athletic hubby.

    And Nene seems to be on the tall side so she may appear to be larger than she really is. Quite frankly she looks like she is on the slender side to me. Keep in mind TV do add pounds.

    And I agree that Kim has probably had surgeries to alter her look. And speaking of altering your look have yall checked out Kim’s horrible hair weave. Big Papa need to help her upgrade her hair pieces.

    So I would’nt call any of these ladies over weight or out of shape at all.

  121. Bigpapa- That is pretty lame that Ed Hartwell married Lisa after knowing her less than 2 months. I mean that is border line insane on his part and that is just genius on her part. Then she had a baby. I just have to say that Lisa got plenty of game.

  122. Bigpapa – You made one or two valid points. You keep saying all of the ladies on the show are out of weight and don’t work out. That isn’t true. Lisa is a physical trainer and she and Ed work out religiously. It’s obvious that Sheree stays in the gym too. I don’t consider any of them to be obese. DeShawn isn’t fat to me. All she need is a little toning. Also, give her the benefit of the doubt. She has 3 kids and I’m sure when Eric met her she was smaller. NeNe must have been bigger because she was on a diet on the show. Now Kim, she has probably has all kind of surgeries so I won’t even speak on her body. Also, I don’t think all of them are loud. Lastly, these entertainers don’t have to leave the country to find a winner. There are plenty of them right here. Every guy may not be looking for a size 4.

  123. Hell I believe it for the most part myself that’s why I couldn’t watch it. NeNe looks like a man in drag to me and the Shree lady is to full of herself. I don’t know much about the others because I didn’t watch after I saw Kim give her 11 year old daughter a Louis Vuitton purse. That is foolish and wasteful. They need to try and teach them life is more than material possessions.

  124. Ok. I had to know because you were saying that you were going to give these hood rats and players some advice. I wanted make sure you have a woman if you were going to try and give others relationship advice.

    I agree with a lot of what you said about the materialistic attitudes that some women have. However you have to understand that just because you might not find a certain kind of woman attractive to you doesn’t mean someone else may. To each his own. Opinions are like a**holes. Everyone has one. The men these women are with may think they are the most beautiful women in the world. Ghetto attitudes and all. I however think the show is garbage and I don’t watch it. I tried last weekend and I couldn’t stomach it. Yet they have some people who watch it and think it’s great.

    I am more of a movie, sitcom type person. The shows that are not reality based shows seem more genuine to me then reality tv. Reality TV seems so made up. That’s just my opinion. You chose your wife for your own personal reasons and to them I am sure the same applies. You might not like the choices they made, but then you don’t have to. They are after all not your wife. So of that you should be happy.

  125. I disagree with the whole premise that rich people aren’t effected by the economy. Let’s face it, anyone who has been investing in the stock market has been effected. People forget that millionaires go broke too. Nothing in life is guaranteed; no matter how big your bank account is today.

  126. Expecting Change – That is exactly why Lisa’s target market is entertainers and people in high positions. She will always have a job if those are the only people she target.

  127. Not Buying It – I’m sure Sheree’s ex watches the show. If not, someone is keeping him informed.

    Carlita – Each episode, Sheree is coming off more arrogant and ignorant. Lisa acts like she is Sheree’s biggest fan, making her ego even bigger. Then, Sheree said that every woman wants to look like her because she is so gorgeous and sexy. Not me. She is not a beauty queen. And her character makes her look worse.

    So far, I get a good vibe from DeShawn. She seems humble, genuine and not down for the backstabbing.

    Kim has shown her true colors. She is probably the one going to Sheree telling what NeNe says about her, and come back reporting to NeNe. I was under the impression they were friends for many years and they have only been knowing each other for 3 years.

  128. Big Papa, You may have made some valid points but who can decipher them? and those that can afford 4 1/2 million dollar homes are not being affected by the economy so she may be selling homes. As for all of the people who are berating Lisa she cant DO anymore than the men allow her to do, at least she has a job! The other thing that everyone is failing to see is that no one knows what really happened between Lisa and K.S. except for them and God hello none of us were there. The other point is that no matter what she has found another way to generate money, and we are supporting it, so she is smart as well as beautiful!

  129. There are alot of men today that has custody of their kids. Men today are fighting for their rights more. This is an area where women has always had the upper hand. But now its changing and Men are stepping up.

    We have to admit that SOME women do have babies out of greed. And those women I do not feel sorry for. You know the gold diggers.

  130. I totally agree with pac4lyfe Sheree comes off really ignorant. I don’t care how much $ she has she want have it for long showing out in front of the world. She’s literally setting such a poor example to her children.

    Lisa appears to be the smart one here she realize if she wanna keep living the life style that she has now it’s gonna require smart investing on her part.Because when those beautiful looks fade she will still have a strong financial foundation she has established for herself.

    Nene seems to be down to earth and I like that.

    DeShawn seems sweet however the verdict is still out on her. But I do admire the foundation she has.

    Kim she’s a typical materialistic gold digger with no substance.

  131. pac4lyfe: I totally agree with your comments regarding Sheree. That woman needs a reality check, and her ex-husband’s lawyers just might be the people to do it.

  132. I disagree that these ladies were hired to create drama. That may have been the case with the previous seasons but it truly looks as if these ladies forget the cameras are in front of them, and its real.

    I think Sheree is real stupid to be mentioning how much she is expecting to get out of her divorce. She said she wants to live the same lifestyle, if not better. I hope she is out flipping that money like Lisa. Also, for her to say, “What is a budget…I don’t have one of those,” makes her seem very silly. Even though you have money, you should still watch your spending. Anyone who talks like that probably won’t have that kind of money 20 years later. Sheree rubbed me the wrong way when she called NeNe classless and stated she couldn’t dress yet, she smiles in her face.

  133. Also, they mentioned Keith have full custody on Tom Joyner. I understand Keith’s position. It will appear to people that another man is taking care of his child and he is a deadbeat dad. It would be similar to the situation with Al B. Sure and Kim Porter’s son.

  134. Stopitplease – Those are very profound words coming from you. Real deep! Also, I agree with everything you’ve stated.

  135. hello did we forget how this houswives show started there were the white women gold diggers on houswives of orange county, they were the original gold diggers, they were much worse than these women. the one white ladies son steyed in drug rehab. at least these black women are more together than housewives of orange county.

  136. Real Housewives of Atlanta is a REALITY show. You are not going to see every facet, nor are you going to be privy to all of the details. It’s amazing that so many people tuned in on Tuesday when that was the final presidential debate, I know I know you have already heard everything the candidates have to say right? Well, let me say this ALL of them (Housewives) have managed to escaped the economic doldrums therefore it doesnt matter how ghetto they are, how quickly they married or even who has full custody( and where has this been substantiated who has the actual court docs?) Sorry, I too digress, the point is, if you are going to bash them, bash them for not taking a stand and promoting economic responsibility, bash them for not utilizing the privilege of correct grammar, or even bash them for for not spending alot of time with the children that are shown but don’t bash them for what they were hired to do, CREATE DRAMA.

  137. I have to say I tried watching this show this morning and I got sick to my stomach. They named the show the Real Housewives of Atlanta and the word real in the name is the realist thing about it. After watching this. I have to say I can definitely understand why he didn’t want his children involved in the show. Good for him.

  138. I wonder when celebs post pics of their kids or put them in the spot light do they expect them to be eaten alive? I wonder do they consider that the embarrassing blunders normal children make everyday will be maximized x100 because they have red carpet/blog babies. I respect Keith for considering his kids because this fame ish seems to bite two ways.

  139. Why is everyone coming down on Lisa here. She’s beautiful and smart and maybe she does’nt mention her other 2 kids in the show because she maybe under some strict guidelines through the court. Maybe Keith Sweat whinning ass got her under some type of gag order. Don’t be so quick to pass judgement on her.

    Her Husband is fine as hell and they are a perfect match. And I think K. Sweat maybe hating on them a tad bit. But with that said I see his side as well in all this.

    Big up’s to BRAVO for showing a different side of African Americans for a change I bet alot of white people are totally shocked by how well these Black Women are living. Because they are living large.

    Yall lay off Lisa don’t hate on her because her intelligence and good looks got her one rich Husband after another. Don’t ladies congratulate.

    Carlita L. Smith from Dallas said this on October 16, 2008

  140. I think that Keith was right, in not letting his and her children be victims of this TV drama and PAPARAZZI crap. I also feel if she really was hard up for them to be on the show she either would have fought or at least menntioned their names, SOMETHING other than NOTHING. She do her business thing in all but for real whos really the real Housewive of Atlanta.

  141. I RESPECT HIS DECISION BUT HE COULD ATLEAST LET THEM AIR ON THE LAST EPISODE OFTHE SHOW, I MEAN DO SHE NOT HAVE ANY AUTHORITY OVER THE KIDS? IT DOES MAKE YOU WONDER! WHY SHE DIDNT GET FULL CUSTODY OR ATLEAST SHARED CUSTODY. IF THAT IS THE CASE

  142. Actually I too have been married and I also made the almost mistaking the relationship that followed as “love” when it was really a need for validation after being in turmoil. Just the fact that Lisa felt the need to mention how bad her prior marriage was indicates that there are still some open wounds. Its like she has to remind HERSELF why she remarried so fast.
    I find it funny to hear folks say that God can bring you someone over night when if you are following the word, you weren’t supposed to divorce the first one. The fact that he had just signed a multi million dollar contract makes her suspect thats all. Tralancey- time being of no concern equates desperation because lust and infatuation may come immediately, but only time brings real love. Real love comes from admiration and respect. These things take time to reveal. Convienience sees no time.

  143. love does not have a time on it. You must have never truly been in love. My husband and i got married in 6 months and now happily togehter for 7 years. We adore each other. I too was in a bad marriage, but not anymore. God can bring you somebody overnight, you better be ready and be open. So yes please stop it

  144. Stopitplease, you’re spot on.

    As an aside, I do think the name of the show is a misnomer as most/all of the wives claim to “work.” I don’t know about yall but when I think of the term housewife, I think of someone who does not work outside of the home. But, perhaps that term has new meaning… perhaps.

    Anyways, good for Keith. We may not know which way he swings, but at least we can be comforted by the fact that he probably is a very devoted and loving father:-)

  145. Don’t hate on Lisa because she married her man in less than two months. My husband asked me to marry him in a month…flat. I think that after you have have been a bad marriage, relationship or whatever….when someone right comes along; time is of no concern.
    I dislike the show due to the portrayal that I saw of the women. Expensive, shallow, thoughtless, mindless, heartless and classless. That equals just less not more.

  146. I am disappointed to see Black women cast as a spin off from Flava of Love, I Love NY. Due to the hunger of those 15 minutes of fame, mainstream has made us appear as clown like and shallow. No one is talking about anything of substance. Its all designer this and label that. We wear our wealth on our backs and this show proves it. Where are the real housewives? The dentist, doctors, teachers, and lawyers? Where are the women that work a nine to five and still come home and fry up the bacon? I am not impressed with the “working woman” front. She is merely flipping her man’s money. Especially since there is the possibility that he may not get back into the league. We will see how long she sticks around when the well runs dry..why be in such a rush to remarry ( especially after only knowing him a month and a half) unless you have an plan?

  147. Sooooo she’s upset because her kids’ dad was a RESPONSIBLE father who gave a valid, non hater-ish reason for his denial AND does not appear to cater to his kids’ every whim, thereby turning them into spoiled brats??? Ok, so far there are 2 wives I despise, WU Hartwell and the hi siddity, mannish Sheree

  148. your right! keith sweat might not have let them on the show, but as their mother she should have definately mentioned them if nothing else. The only thing she did mention is that she was in a bad relationship before and she deserved happiness. The kids werent bad just the man. That would have been the perfect time for her to mention them when she brought up the past.

  149. I respect the mans decision, but the thing that bothered me is how she did not even MENTION those children on the season premiere. She said she just had a baby, insinuating shes a brand new mom.

    Ugh.

  150. shesh1nes, I don’t know what comment you’re reading of mine where I said that groupies were not gold diggers or where I was defending the ghetto mentality. Just because gold diggers/ groupies have “stepped their games up” doesn’t mean I believe its commendable. I actually am a very educated, independent woman who thinks it’s essential for people, especially women, to be able to stand on their own two. Even still, it’s quite amusing to observe women who go through lots of hoops to land the “dream husband who looks great on paper.”

  151. LMAO its so funny the people and things that “Not Buying It” chooses to judge or defend. You just…I don’t understand WHERE you’re coming from with the things you say most of the time. Good point about groupies not being gold diggers…Well taken. Its totally relevant and makes a lot of sense.

    …So do we defend and appreciate what is considered “ghetto” or do judge it? Is the phrase “ghetto” especially coming from the mouths of black folk problematic in itself. Is it just a label? Does it have any true meaning in itself? Or are we glorifying both the word and the concept behind it by continuing to make it apart of our vocabulary. Just some things to consider. But if you couldn’t tell I particularly HATE the word.

  152. Who says groupies, i.e., gold diggers, don’t work? lol. I know groupies who went to law school/grad school to find a suga daddy. Don’t get it twisted, some groupies have stepped their games up.

    As for the women on Housewives-Atlanta, I don’t know if they are groupies but more than one of them seems classless and egregious. Only time will tell if they continue to feed into that stereotype.

  153. She is beautiful. There are a lot of beautiful black woman haters out there. She does not strike me as a groupie. Groupies dont work. Keith Sweat might want to go on the show himself and try and make a comeback. I love her on the show. She is the only one that works. For the haters out there maybe you can get some beauty tips from lisa. lisa keep bein fab!!!!

  154. Nice looking kids.. The baby, EJ is adorable. Keith does have somewhat of a point but putting them on a show with their mother wouldn’t hurt them. And she is beautiful. =D

  155. I loved the REALITY show debut. PEOPLE– let’s try not to hate on ourselves for once. Everybody deserves their 15 minutes of fame or shame. It’s JUST a tv show-entertainment.

    I’m an African-American female, educated, with a career, portfolio and a nice stash of rainy day cash — and I’ll be watching, encouraging my friends to do the same.Stop hatin’!

    Right on Keith!

  156. I’m so glag K. Sweat had the self respect and the respect for his kids to say NO!
    I mean these woman are sad.
    It is upsetting the first time the cast of Real Housewives are called ghetto is when african americans are involved…..however they are very low class. Money doesn’t make you a worthwhile perSon. And these females prove that!
    P.s is Sherre (she know her momma named her SHERRY) on steriods? She is very large and manish?

  157. Yeah I saw the show and I watched the extra clips on Bravo.com. She did not even mention those kids and that is a shock to me. I don’t think Keith is using the kids to punish her. He would look like a dead beat if it seemed like Ed Hartwell was raising his kids. Lisa strikes me as a groupy. Did anyone see how she was all up in Sharee azz at the party. She clearly wanted camara time.

  158. I forgot to add, what disappoints about the fact that this season will be the first time the show is characterized as ghetto is the fact that black people were introduced to the show for the first time w/ the Atlanta cast (putting aside the 5 second shot of a black waiter, last season).

  159. ladybug, you obviously haven’t check out the show or you’re just hating. Ghetto as they may be, most of the women on that show are strangers to budgets. It’s sad to see though because they give ammunition to people who believe black people are ghetto regardless of how much money they have. By the looks of the preview and the premiere of the Atlanta season, it will definitly be the most ghetto (and I’ve watched almost every episode of all three seasons). Hopefully, they’ll portray these women as not being as shallow and talent-LESS as they initially come across as. Fingers crossed.

  160. take 5 low budget (Kimora Lee Simmons) talking about what they got and how much they spend on it and where they shop and party in Atlanta THATS THE SHOW in a nut shell.

  161. I don’t know why people think that it’s weird that a man could have full custody of his child. For all we know the kids may want to live with their father.

    Anywho…I respect Keith’s decision. These “real housewives” shows are all about drama and you never know how they will put their “spin” on anything.

  162. I respect Keith’s decision also. Kinda weird that he has full custody of the two boys. Something is strange there, i wonder what she did. and I will be tuning in every week to The Real housewives of Atlanta!

    _________________________________________________
    I agree I bet she is like the other Video girls who leave their kids behind to chase money or maybe her husband didn’t except her kids !!Either way it sounds fishy!!!

  163. Maybe BCK meant drama in the sense that there was a familial disagreement. The title is a bit sensational; but, it doesn’t completely miss the mark IMHO.

  164. And oh HEEEEEECK no ! Why did they title this article as having family drama with Keith Sweat even though he is quoted as saying, ‘Lisa, it’s nothing personal. I just really don’t know how they’re going to edit and if they’re going to make you look crazy. I just don’t want the kids to be, you know, overexposed or anything.’
    What’s “dramatic” about that ? Shame shame shame.

  165. Yeah , I didn’t see that Keith Sweat has FULL custody. Did they mention it on the show or somewhere? Source please.
    Anyway, I totally respect and applaud Keith’s decision. He obviously has his children’s best interest at heart.

  166. I haven’t caught the show yet. But I will try to. Lisa is pretty and she is doing her own thing. Cute kids. I want EJ’s cheeks he is a cutie.

  167. I respect Keith’s decision also. Kinda weird that he has full custody of the two boys. Something is strange there, i wonder what she did. and I will be tuning in every week to The Real housewives of Atlanta!

  168. I’ll be tuned in every Tuesday. I’m all over the blogs as well. What can I say…I’m a reality show junkee. I respect Keith’s decision.

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