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Television personality Byron Allen, his pregnant wife Jennifer, and their daughter Chloe enjoyed an afternoon of family fun on December 30th. The family of three are in Hawaii for vacation.
Photographs: Will Binns, James Breeden
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By 2050ish, this will be the new “black” American family. Black American families will cease to exist. I know this sounds outlandish, but that’s what it seems. Cute little girl.
Can we honestly persuede ourselves to believe that there are individuals that are only one race? Skin tones, hair texture, and eye color are just a few of the ways to show that we are all created in a mixture of races. I love to see interracial couples and children; it reminds me that we can all live in sync with one another and that love conquers all.
And then you wake up.
lol!!!!!
Probably sooner than 2050.
Hold your breathe!
You are right. I have heard people say that in the future everyone will be beige. This is not true. Bi-racial children, especially girls, overwhelmingly grow up to mate with caucasions. After a couple of generations, their will be no evidence of blackness. A beige “utopia” will only come about if biracial people mated with other biracial people. This, however, has not been the case. The recent 10 year study in England reported that African genes are being eradicated through dilution.
All of these comments are generalizations based on what evidence? Just because people would be beige doesn’t mean it will be a “utopia”. People, no matter what color still have predjudices, steal, kill, cheat, lie, fornicate, bleed, defacate like every other human who experiences the human condition.
If the Blacks will be “eradicated” as you say, so will in turn the Whites.
This is just mostly wishful thinking on your part, I think.
In my opinion, this is just an average looking set of people by any standard regardless of their skin color. Nothing to write home about, in my eyes. This man is the proverbial Uncle Tom in my opinion. He doesn’t matter.
Thank you; no better/ no worse. There are some really strange people who post on this site. Man!
Hi Khrish and Happy New Year! In my view,Byron Allen is a sellout, and I was elevating him and his family by referring to them as even average in the looks department, after I took a second look at the photos.
He’s nothing I’d want, and especially would not want his autograph if I saw him on the street because he is that insignificant to me. An autograph from him will never be worth anything for any reason. I forget…what’s his talent anyway? He’s no male version of Oprah on his little entertainment show, that’s for sure.
Khrish, I wanted to agree with you also about there being some weird people who post weird out of left field comments at BCK. But I won’t respond to them as they would to my comments by telling me to shut up or calling me a troll.
If they want to see trolls , they should look more deeply at this couple…especially her arthritic looking knees and her double chin. Not to mention his overall mug and pot gut. What is so beautiful about that? This is no Halle Berry and Gabriel Aubry. More like Homely and Geeky Allen.
I’m going to say it..and Chloe is no beauty compared to interracial Nahla Aubry, either.
Pisces, I tell you I am more and more confused about the people who post on this site about color. How in hell can one wish the extinction of one’s own heritage? Every time I think that we have got pass this kind of ignorance a younger generation comes up with something even more ridiculous to keep this crap alive. They still buy into the lie that Blacks are non-human because they keep referring to interracial coupling. Will we ever take 4 steps forward without some ignorance snatching us 5 steps backwards? It boils my blood to think that people would still hold these Hitler type desires as far as a nation of people are concerned. They sound as ignorant as those dumb butts on Tyra Banks show who bathe themselves in clorox because they want to be fairer in complexion. I had never heard of such stupid things before in my long and old life. What a pity to know that in my last days there are still young folk who entertain such ideals. Where did we go wrong? As for the man in the pictures; I don’t really know much about him because I have never followed him nor his career. I do hope that making the world “Beige” was not his intent when he married his wife. I hope he married her because he truly loves her. If Those people in the above posts are Black they must suffer real heartache and hatred of themselves to entertain such hopes as they expressed. Disgraceful!
Khrish, as always thanks for your insight in your comment. I don’t understand why some people think we should not defend ourselves when attacked. What anonymous initially posted under this photo was vicious under the guise of a “we are the world” statement.
I am proud of the comments that have followed from you, Teri, GTSA and others who take the high road but are exactly on point in addressing anonymous.
And it kills me when some respond by saying people can date/marry whomever they want and suggest that Black women are bitter because of it. Nothing could be further from the truth…the same anti- Black(female) comments appear whenever some non descript C or D list Black actor is pictured with their “White as a ghost” mate and children.
I guess when it’s not truly super star couples like Seal and Heidi or Halle and Gabriel, it makes some people feel more comfortable to relate in their imaginations their own couplings to some would be celebrities lives.
Hey Pisces *waving frantically.* How are you, hon? First, everyone forgive me for going off topic. Pisces, I saw your reply to my comment to you on the Kwanzaa thread, but several days had passed so I figured you wouldn’t return. But I wanted to say that you are soooo sweet. Thank you for the very kind words. I love reading your posts too. I don’t always reply, but I love your insight and humor! I hope you have a wonderful and blessed New Year, hon!
Now, back to our regularly scheduled program. You are absolutely on point with your comment here. It amazes me how people have been trying to get rid of the black race for centuries and have failed every time. We ain’t going anywhere!
Teri, “say it again”, I’m Black and I’m Proud. These are some real sickos.
I’m with Pisces! Where is the evidence behind your facts that most biracial people will marry white or that black will be eradicated from the earth? Please! Certain groups of people have been attempting to “eradicate” us from the planet for 400 years. They haven’t been able to accomplish this then, and they won’t now. It appears many here are being a bit presumptuous.
Also like Pisces mentioned, it’s been predicted that WHITES will be fewer and fewer as time goes on as more and more brown people are not only immigrating to our country, but having children as well. Sorry Charlie.
Hi Teri! I’m blowing kisses to you! Though we’ve never met , I can tell you have the type of personality, spunk intelligence and kindness that I respect and admire and am drawn to as a friend.
I wish I could be nice and more lady like as you are when conversing here, but some of these people are mean and it makes me want to spew ugliness at them in kind.
I hope you and yours are enjoying the New Year and as always I adore talking to you and love it when you write to me. I love being social with the nice people at BCK. Take care.
And by the way, HAPPY NEW YEAR, PISCES! My blood was so at the boiling point I forgot to be pleasant. Hope you had wonderful holidays.
See what I mean, Teri? Your answer showed finesse and polish without going off the deep end like I tend to do (sigh).
It is on point and I can’t believe what “anonymous” wrote. That can’t be an African American person.
The audacity of “anonymous’” so called predictions.
Does it say that White genes are more likely to be eradicated since Black is the predominance? Who wrote such crap. White have been working for years to maintain their whiteness because they are the minority in the world. Who told you this and moreover, why does it seem to bring you some sort of elation?
Thanks Khrish for the Happy New Year greeting in th midst of all this. This got my blood boiling, too. We have to defend ourselves from these people’s off the cuff remarks about our people.
Just can’t let them think they’re going to get away with it time after time. I don’t understand why people who don’t like Blacks visit and comment at this site. They have their own sites to vent at.
Someone is lying to you. You’re gonna be just as Black as you are today. And you are never going to be accepted by the people you want most to be with. Just still a part of the Black community that you will be thrust upon. I never quite realized that it would be “utopian” not be Black. You need to seek serious help.
I hope you are right!! It’s a beautiful thing.
Pardon me, but I don’t understand why it would be so wonderful to see “Black” disappear! This sounds so “Hitlerish”. I do hope I have misunderstood your posts. There are many beautiful children that are not the product of an inter-ethnic relationship. It just seems such a very weird set of posts.
Personally, i LOVE seeing inter-racial families. I embrace unity. We see where separatism got us! ONE LOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kiara, we are very happy for you. I love seeing black couples. Don’t have a problem whatsoever with interracial couples (love is a beautiful thing regardless of the races involved), but don’t for one minute think because there are mixed couples, that the world will now start singing, “kumbaya” anytime soon. Unity is a wonderful thing, but everyone who is for unity isn’t going to date/marry outside their race. If you wanna talk about separatism, talk to those who instituted it. Trust, they aren’t changing.
Unity has gotten us about the same place when it’s only one-sided. If you have noticed the way our President has faired this year, you will see that culturally mixed marriages haven’t make a real difference in the society and the hearts of people. As you remember our precious Minnie Ripperton and others had inter cultural marriages and their inlaws hated them. As well, there have been intercultural mingling since the slave days and before and I don’t see that it’s gotten us anymore over the past decades except people wanting new boxes to check on forms. I think that you are dillusional or just asleep.
One has absolutely nothing to do with the other.
i agree blame you know who.
I don’t believe in bi-racial I believe in the One Drop Rule that is how I was raised.
we have a lot of mixed people in our family and we are all just black. Thats how we see it. Back in the day we would have been black and we are still just black.
Anyway most black people in United States are multiracial. We just identify with being black.
@tight, I doubt that very seriously. To make black families “cease,” every black man and woman would have to be in an interracial relationship. Currently, there are more black couples than IR couples (black/white). Granted, I do believe we will continue to see an increase in IR unions, but I doubt the black race will ever be wiped out, and frankly, I don’t want them to be either. I’m black, and I love seeing the beauty of my brothers and sisters unifying and bringing black children into the world. This does not mean I’m against IR relationships, but I’m black, and while I love all people, I’m for the preservation of my race.
It sounds more than “outlandish” it sounds like Black hatred. If you are Black, then what a shame that you look forward to the aniahlation of Black families. How low can you go. I have yet to hear a more vile, vicious and ignorant remark. If you are Black I hope. for your sake, that you can find enough clorox to use like those people on the Tyra Banks show that will take away your Blackness. You are a pathetic and sick human being. I don’t even have the capacity in my heart to feel sorry for someone like you.
Awwww look at those chunky legs!
i know right, and it don’t even matter what she looks like, as long as she is white
???? the new “black” american family.
Gorgeous family and the “black family” comes in all colors and persuasions. I have a large family with white Asian and Black relatives and it is all great. More Hispanics marry outside of their race than any other group in America. This family is a bi-cultural, bi-racial family in America and “black” doesn’t just denote color.
More hispanics marry outside their race???? Hispanic is not a race. It is an ethnicity. anyways cute family
We’ve been trying for years to change that word but “ole masser” got there first and it really sticks. LOL Thanks for giving it another try anyway. Perhaps one day they can understand it. LOL
beautiful little girl, love her suit and those chunky little legs are the cutest
Black people are the only people in the world who view their own genetic extinction as racial progress! Very few black people see dark skin as something worth preserving. Instead, we hear all types of nonsense that “skin color doesn’t matter”, and “we are all one race”. Sorry, I live in the REAL world wher skin color does matter and where racial tribalism continues to be the rule.
crestfallen, you know, I don’t believe the people making the “black extinction” comments are actually black. If they are, they are part of a group of blacks who sadly despise their existence.
Amen! We are the only people who seem to dislike who and what we are. After all these years and progress, we still seem to lose the idea that people of color are the majority in this world. We even want to institute check boxes, more that there are now; and my goodness there are plenty; to change or deny the Blackness within ourselves. A check box will make no difference in this culture because white people will never check a box to assign themselves another culture; so everyone will still know that those who check the boxes are non-white. Will it ever end?
They have many boxes to check in Brazil–lol and still with the same results…lol.
According to the news we now have a box to satisfy everybody for this cenus year. LOL
And that’s so sad.
It must be nice to live in a world where skin color is unimportant and we are all just human beings. I, unfortunately, have to live in the real world, where skin color and race-based policy making are not figments of the imagination.
The African genes will always be there they may look different, but they will still be there. My mother is Scottish and my dad is black, my three children tan very dark under the sun, one has curly hair, the other fuller lips, they all haves traces of their African and European ancestry. They have the best of both worlds and will fit in where ever they go. There is an Indian tribe called the Metis, which means that they are both French and Native Indian and although many do not look Native, they are still a branch of the Native tree. The beige people will still be a part of the African Diaspora tree. They are all welcome. Lovely family.
Aww cute chubbiness!
While you are all arguing over what black looks like, did anyone happen to see how strong of a hold he had on his wife & daughter when in the ocean? His hands & face seem to say, ‘Oh NO, Don’t You Fall.’ I think its too cute.
As for blackness, send everyone to Africa or any hot caribean island & in less than a year, everyone will be black enough.
My goodness, New Yr..Same S…..
I agree that the Black people will eventually dissappear. I disagree that Biracial girls grow up and marry white men,I think that will grow up and marry men that are Black like the like their dad-Black. The boys will grow up and marry white or Latino women.
Anyways, about Byron Allen, I like him but never really connected with him. His shows were always kinda of corny, to me. His daughter is cute.
Mena, where do you think black people are gonna go? Again, let’s use some logic here. To eradicate black people from the face of the earth, every black person would have to marry outside his or her race. That will not happen. The MAJORITY of blacks have and will marry their own. Again, where are we getting these comments from?
This isn’t a white or Black issue. I like Seal and Heidi together so figure that one out. I also got biracial people in my family and love them. I my dad is white and my mom is Black. However, I do believe the Black race will slowly dissappear one day. We have alot of Black men that are not comfortable with their own race. Yes, some do chose other races to marry because they are truly in love but alot of them don’t marry for that reason. Some really do want their kids to come out looking a certain kind of way and so they seek out certain women.
As for your neices and nephews, I think they are a minority that married Black. I don’t think the majority of mixed kids, especially boys will marry back into the Black race. I think the girls might.
The media has subconciously implanted ideas of what beauty is and accordingly to the mainstream media it isn’t Black. You rarely see Black women being held up like white/latino/asian women. I know Black women are beauty. I think we are the BOMB! But that isn’t being portrayed on tv. Its Asian, Latino, or white women. It is sad but that is what is happening. And believe me, it is and will directly affect the Black race, both directly and indirectly. It is sad because Black and truly Beautiful. Our country is losing out.
It doesn’t matter what ideas they plant, you don’t have to buy into them. I never waited for the media to teach my children about pride in themselves…I did it. I also taught them Black history. The media shows me the image but I decide what works for me and mine. By the way, if you know the media is planting those ideas, why are you buying into them?
You are right. But this attitude is also prevalent among many black women. I personally know black women who seek out white mates because they want their children to have a certain “look”. We have to be honest about this.
Well the act of being stupid doesn’t discriminate.
But what you said was indeed a Black/white issue. How can you not see that?
Oh, and Mena, my former brother in law has about 6 biracial children. ALL of them have married black, boys and girls alike. They are NOT alone. We are making a lot of assumptions here. Again, where are people coming up with this nonsense?
Beautiful family.
Hope she has a boy next…
that always balances out the family
Why is this post getting more reactions than the Paula Patton and Robin Thicke one? They’re both black/white couples and expecting babies so why all the negativity towards this couple? I find it to be a double standard that it’s acceptable for a black woman to date/marry a white man but when it comes to a brotha, people want to persecute them. Halle Berry, Garcelle Nilon, etc. do not catch the heat.
Precisely. Even if he married a black woman, I doubt she would have been anyone on this site anyway. People like and marry whom they like. Just leave it be.
And for those worried that black people will be bred out completely, remember that they’re millions of black people outside of North America and Europe, and only a very small percentage of them are marrying and/or having children with non-blacks.
I agree 100%. That was the point I was trying to make. The majority of blacks marry blacks.
Frankly, I got caught up in the first comments about black people being wiped out. I forgot to even comment on Byron and his family. I don’t really care who people date and marry. I could also go into the reason why I believe black men who date interracially get more criticism than black women, but it really wouldn’t solve anything. It is what it is. I’m NOT, by any means, saying it is right either.
I think that it’s the posts of the first few people who are getting the reaction, not particularly the subjects in the pictures. Because it was such a strange comment about the couple and their child being examples of what was called “a beige society”. That’s what has caused so much posting behind this photo than behind the other couple.
Here is what I don’t understand… If bi-racial families will become the new “black-family” what are white families??? there is nothing wrong with wanting to preserve the image of a black family– other races have been doing it for years. But I must say, I am a black woman, with a black mother and a black father– thats a black family. This image is in no way a “black family”. It is a BI-RACIAL family and there is nothing wrong with that either! We can celebrate both, but let’s atleast call it what it is?
oh how cute BLACK men just love bonding with their children.
yeah right
Yeah, and the ones that do don’t get the credit for it.
I think that Black men should stay with Black women. What happened do they not love their own mothers. Sometimes with other races these backgrounds don’t mix. A lot of times white families don’t take to black people and black people are often more accepting. I don’t even know why?????????
I always wanted to marry a man like my own father. Strong and Black I couldn’t see it any other way
I think that Black men have a problem with self identification. I believe that what you see is that Black People have gotten so far from telling their children about our Black History its pathetic. I think we should be made to watch roots twice a year.
Wow @ my comment triggering such a discussion. Cool.
You doggone right it triggered such a conversation. What you said was really stupid and ignorant. I certainly hope you only said it to create a conversation and not because you are that illiterate.
Black men should marry whomever they want, they do and they will continue to do so. A lot of white families don’t take to Hispanics marrying them either so what. Black people are grown and nobody else, especially some stranger, have a right to tell them what to do. I’m glad nobody is listening to you self-righteous nosy biddies who think you have the right to tell people how to live their lives.
First of all, biddie, you are obviously reading and taking in what is being written, so you have listened. And if no one cares what others write then that goes for what you wrote or “think” about the topic, too. Nobody gives a hoot about what you think and don’t need you tell anybody about being grown.
We see that the Sambo in this photo is grown and he did marry who he wanted to and Black women could only be better off because of it.
Well, I agree with Maria, everybody has a right to live his own life, why are people so judgemental? Some people like to date out of their race, some don’t. Should all black men avoid talking to lighter women so that the black women on here stop being so insecure? Date whoever you want!
I personally don’t care who any of these people marry. They have to live their marriage, not me. However I certainly do take exception to the comments made by the first posters about the eradication of the Black family and the desire to see a “beige” society. I find them the most vile, vicious and repusulive statements that I have yet to read on this site. People can marry whom they chose but don’t wish for the extinction of a group of people with the results of intercultural marriage. With that, I do have a massive problem.
Believe me, no Black woman is jealous of seeing this couple together. I for one can’t stand men with rough looking skin from razor bumps(something particular to the majority of African American men who look similar to Byron Allen). How un-sexy to touch. I guess when he shaves and gets those prnounced razor bumps, it’s a not-so-gentle reminder of how Black he looks and truly is.
Pisces,
You have reacted very strongly to this post/pics. I don’t know anything about Byron and I wouldn’t know him from Adam if I saw him walking down the street. What are the issues that you have with him? What did he do or say? I’d like to put your comments into context.
Thanks!
As a side note, I don’t have a problem with black men marrying non-black women. However, if you feel that non-black women are some sort of gift to humanity then I do have a problem. A minister told me there is nothing wrong with physical preferences but when preferences becomes a priority it becomes a problem.
“As a side note, I don’t have a problem with black men marrying non-black women. However, if you feel that non-black women are some sort of gift to humanity then I do have a problem. A minister told me there is nothing wrong with physical preferences but when preferences becomes a priority it becomes a problem.”
@Sunshine I agree 100% with this last statement of your post.
Sunshine, the posting of this picture of Byron with his wife evoked a racist comment from someone calling themselves anonymous. The comment was off topic in my view so I brought the discussion back to the images in the photo and also responding to anonymous reaction.
My point was to show that just because couples may be interracial, it doesn’t always equate “beige” beauty or a Utopian image…using the people in the photo to support my case.
People can and do pair up with whomever they wish and more power to them. I resent when some people insinuate in their posts the termination of the Black race. Byron Allen is contributing to this wish. Some people do believe Black is beautiful, too in all shades.
I appreciate your comment, Sunshine and I hope this answer serves as some clarification of where I’m coming from.
Someone should also directly address the “anonymous” poster and ask her what made her make that comment and put in context her statement..
Thanks for the clarification!
I am amazed at the animosity some posters have towards this man who has done absolutely nothing to them. How does anybody know what is in his heart? Is Halle Berry a self-hating Sambo? Why not? Try being less angry and bitter. It is extremely unattractive.
Well I think the baby is a cute lil’ brown dumpling but I’d prefer her more if she was a little lighter and her hair a little more straight. Those curls could kink up and that would be such a tragedy!
the lighter she gets the older she will look, probably when she turns 25 she will look 45
WHY?
Because that’s just way too African. The Western/European standard (or the closer the better) is preferred!
*I hope you can tell that I am being facetious*
Well, I’m really happy about that. My jibs were already tightening up. LOL
no havent you guys seen the us census white people will be fading out by 2050.
Wow, the madd ignorance on here. Love is love.
Riiiiight. Say that next time you come to the “hood” with your sweetie.
Let’s be real here. Race is a construct but racism (system) is a very real experience for many who lean more towards the side of black/African. Love is love, sure, but love is harder when it comes to whom you choose for a significant other. When I’ve traveled through the “hood” with my white male friends it’s as if I’ve slapped some black men in the face. One elder black man even came up to my friend (not my mate) and started verbally assaulting him until I intervened. I’ve been told numerous times that by dating white I am contributing to the dis-unification and destruction of my community. If I did not care for my (black) community it wouldn’t matter but I do!
Some of the post are ridiculous….
Therefore I’m gonna jump on the bandwagon and post something that has nothing whatsoever to do with the topic at hand.
In the words and voice of Joseph Walter Jackson…I
In the words and voice of Joseph Walter Jackson….
I got something to say, I got a statement, this is a good one…
(drumroll)
Michael Jackson IS the biological father of Omer, Prince, Paris, Blanket!!!
The point of my post is that some of the things that some of you are responding about has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand…
Since this appears to be a free for all, say what you want, about who and whatever kinda thing going on here I decided to jump on the bandwagon with my pointless statement…
Though I DO SINCERELY BELIEVE THAT MJ IS THE BIOLOGICAL FATHER OF ALL 4 CHILDREN
@ some of y’all something or the other –YOu and your long handled ridiculous moniker–don’t you know this is BCK. We black folk got a lot of issues we need to work out, why not an innocent celebrity blog–lol.
An-T-Way-blame the initial poster if you want to put down how the post turned out. It should of been the same old boring–oohh, ahhh isn’t she/he/it so cute….but instead got off into some political stuff, happenns sometimes….
you do know how to walk and chew gum at the same time, right?
good post!
Pisces says:
January 4, 2010 at 7:25 pm
I’m going to say it..and Chloe is no beauty compared to interracial Nahla Aubry, either.
@Pisces….just one question for you…is Nahla REALLY a beauty???
At best she is just a strange looking toddler…not ugly, not beautiful, just a strange looking toddler who hasnt grown into her looks or beauty yet!
Just Sayin”….
Like they say, beauty is in the eye of the beholder…what you said about Nahla is how I see Chloe, though I don’t think this one may ever “grow into her looks”. Her parents certainly never did, they’re no lookers as they say.
dang, just makes me wonder what u look like w/all this talk about looks. these are kids @Pisces.
@Hedre…I was a beautiful baby ( because I was so spoiled by my family, my man always teases me by saying you really must have been a pretty baby! My parents assure me that they considered me to be).
I have been complimented from people throughout my life as being a physically beautiful human being. I’m not dark complexioned, was the same color as this baby in this picture or lighter when I was her age with probably softer/curlier hair. I am often mistaken for Filipino or Latina. Routinely, I am approached with Spanish speaking people asking me habla Espanol and continuing to converse in Spanish until I retort “No habla Espanol”, uno picito.
I have a lot of self confidence as a result of a lifetime so far of being admired for my intellect as well as what others consider my physical beauty. I know that I am a very centered person and have strong ego development.
So I hope my self description satisfies your efforts to minimize or diminishe me in some way. Other people can leave remarks worse than I do at this site and are not challenged but for some reason I seem to rub people in the wrong way for some reason. I really don’t care because I know, Hedre, this is your attempt to be evil towards me.
Really hope this helps you out, and in turn I have no desire to know what you look like because I can tell you are rotten inside.
And yes, I only refer to mysel as Black or African American as was stated on my birth certificate.
im wondering what u look like being as judgemental (about kids) as u are!
All people are judgmental. Why don’t you wonder how other people posting here look, like for example the one calling itself” some of yall people are crazy who made a derogatory remark about Nahla. People judge others at this site on the regular, but it doesn’t seem to rub you the wrong way. Screw you!
Hedre, where’s your same apparent outrage or indignation at the racist remarks made by others leaving comments? This is not about me.
Ever heard of the Susie Phipps case? It was a “one drop” case tested in the state of Louisiana. If you take the time to google and research and look at the photo of Ms. Phipps, you will see that you are right. It’s amazing and it’s US law that remains the same in the 21st century. The case was from 1977. The state of Louisiana remanded her to Black status even though she sued.
This comment was meant in response to BCKFan’s comment in a later post about the one drop debate.
I know you addressed your post to Pisces but I agree with her. I think the Allen girl is cutie because she is fat baby and they are usually cuties. I can’t tell if she is a true beauty from the pics.
I think Nahla Aubry is a BEAUTIFUL little girl. I also think Chance Combs, the Obama girls, Sam Alexis Woods, Ludacris’s daughter Karma, Marley Ware, Ryan Robinson and Suri Cruise are beautiful as well.
Lord forgive but that Shiloh Jolie-Pitt is another story.
Byron Allen was as white as Jerry Lewis when he had a show, so none of this surprise me. I just never connected with him. I think everything he has done has been corny. But he do seem like a good person and dad. He is just too far left for me.
I don’t know this man very well, but are you saying that his politics are too far left for you. What exactly do you mean?
she’s so cute!
Sometimes I hate that I was born black–because of the ignorance I see from my own people. No other “race’ of people seem to have such self-hatred. Some folk post with almost admiration about the possibility of blacks getting “lighter and whiter” huh?
I know that the original poster was being a mere provocateur (sp?) she just about admitted it in a post further down–it prompted debate & dialogue which is ok because I too have wondered what will the average “black” look like many decades from now here in the states at least where I have witnessed with my own eyes, more and more blacks==the men in particular, not just hollywood types, choosing to date, marry and sire children with women that are not black.
That said, look at this baby. She could never “pass” for white, and with her “lily white” mom she is quite tan and beautiful I might add–brown complexions–and this is not a racist comment but fact– have more built in protection from the sun and tends to age better as well as brown eyes are not as sensitive to the sun–don’t understand the self hate–but getting back to the subject –many biracial children look like this or blacker—so how is the black race going away anytime soon even here in the states. Black phenotype, feautes or whatever you want to call it are dominant not recessive…Other than the need to try to maintain the status quo and create a population of a privileged few, the one drop rule had another reason for existence, that “black” can pop up just about at any fork in the road of a generation…
Further, what Utopia you think will be created when everyone arrives at a so called beige? Just look at Brazil, no beige–but a lot of unabashed race mixing and still a lot of dumb “colorism” and discrimination down to the minutiae of the differences in appearance…as long as we are human it will continue on…
…doesn’t mean we can’t hope for better, but the so called solution in eradicating very brown or dark people won’t solve much….
Have you ever visit Brazil to come up with a statement like that? For me it was a nice experience and a breath of fresh air. My experience in the USA was contrary to my encounter in Brazil… many people in the States reacted very negative, with a lot of prejudice towards me - the whole ignorance about [messed]f up constructs like “race” hit me hard there. Colorism was something new… and I’m still not over it. Many people with darker skin (you would say “black”) asked me stupid questions:”What are you?” or “What are you mixed with?” In Brazil, nobody asked me such stupid/ignorant questions! It was such a good time there!
And for the record - I bet you would call me black… because my father is from Portugal and my mother is from Morocco. My hair colour is dark blond and I have (natural) soft curls. My skin colour is a gold brown tone like the Sahara and I have green eyes.
@ Lucia—I didn’t ask for you to describe your looks. I could care less about your golden hair or green eyes. I am several shades lighter, than this man’s daughter–but I left that out, because its a mute point and not necessary–AND YES, I consider myself black.
I do apologize if I made somewhat of a blanket statement about Brazil. And I do agree, the race issue in the U.S. is ingrained and perpetual.
Also, Brazil is a huge place,BUT you can’t tell me they don’t classify & discriminate there too based on trivial things like race—which is largely based on what someone lookes like. Come again.
The Euro looking brazillians overall get the “better” jobs and tend to have nicer digs==tell me , why is that so????
I meant moot point, but then again I am sure most people who read know what I meant despite my many typos–lol.
Right on, GTSA! GO!
..and further @ Lucia S., why try to make my post out to be some sort of indictment of Brazil, which it wasn’t. Read more carefully next time. I merely used it as the best example currently where a society or population has been very racially mixed but has yet to produce some type of Utopia as imagined by some of the posters here who think interracial mating is an answer to the entrenched racial divides and discrimination we face.
Yes, classism mainly is the issue with Brazil or so it appears, color/race yes is not the BIG obsession it seems to be here in the U.S., I’ll give you that.
But tell me again, what was at the root of the classism to begin with—look further, the initial “racial” divides–notice also I use quotes for race and similar descriptors…
I focused mainly on Brazil because you made some faulty assumptions. Brazil is my second home, so I just wanted to clear some things up.
The “Euro looking” Brazillians get often the better jobs because they are often immigrants from “rich” European countries like Portugal, Spain, Germany and Italy. They have the money for a “better” (private) education - sad but true.
Brazil is still a slave/whore to the United States in order to survive - like many Latin and South American countries. Capitalism with no restraints - evil and fatally cannibalistic… Large U.S. Corporations with their dollar ravage the amazon like a plague of locusts - the power of the dollar take precedence over the inevitable detrimental consequence!
You called it classism, and this is indeed a problem in Brazil, but this classism is based on greedy capitalism, and not “colorism”. If you have the right amount of money (the U.S. dollar is fine) you can have anything you want… no matter how you look - dark or light skinned. This is indeed economic racism - an injustice system, just like the United States. The World Citizen is still a slave to the U.S. dollar. How long? Not long, because what you reap is what you sow! Brazil is changing - the whole wide world is changing…
@ Lucia S. I hear you, but you lost me when you said that about my country. What are we US citizens about to reap? Come again?
I am not proud of some things about my country, but I am a US citizen first and foremost. We blacks here must do an odd dance, but that’s life, you got to learn how to finesse things that may seem diametrically opposed and learn to balance the grey areas and make it work and find peace with things that don’t.
And I like to read between the lines, that is actually the heart of what people have to say. Your other post, sounds like the US blacks as you call it may have alluded that you may have some “black” in you, and that caused some irritation upon your visits here. Forgive me if that is not true and off mark.
Also, apologies for my brothers and sisters. Some of us have become Hyper-aware of the littlest tracest of pereceived black in other ethnicities. Its part of the remnants of slavery….
Funny, many blacks JUMP to imply that they have mixed or white heritage, whilst other ethnicities/races try to disown or shrug off as much black association as possible. I did just check the demographics of Brazil, many choose not to consider themselves black though African lineage is very prevalent and strong in many parts.
TELL ME. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE PICTURE if so colorblind??
I guess my mini hiatus from BCK had me posting like a fiend for a minute. But I am SO done with this thread/post–just stick a fork in it.
I feel just like you, GTSA. Put a fork in it.
Hey, no sweat. I met some fine people in the United States (regardless of their skin colour) - but many people irritated me. I don’t deny my European/African/Arabic (in no particular order) heritage (culture), I love my mother and my family in Morocco, but I love my father too.
I don’t live in a country where people are segregated into “races”. We are one nation, we don’t have any f****d up social construct like “race” here in Portugal! Not in the census, not in any statistics (social, crime, etc.), not in any application form. My mind is sharp and clear - I’m not confused!
I guess I’m lucky because I don’t have to live in a fascist country! I was raised around good people and that influenced the way I live and who I am today. I would protest and rebel if someone forces me to check a “race” box or similiar sh**… That would be a scandal here as well as in wide parts of Europe! Because it’s discrimination, how can anyone be proud of a concept that leads to a systematic division and oppression between people? I don’t believe in races, humans are humans. I don’t put anyone in a box and call “black” or “white”! Never had, never will. Our skin colour is not what makes us different humans… our character does!
And for the reaping… the Unites States reap hate and anger (worldwide) for their war, eco and political crimes over decades. It’s not fair towards all U.S. citizens, especially the younger generations, because they can’t change the past. But it is how it is. I’m tired too, so this is my last post here.
Doesn’t Brazil have one the highest rates of HIV/A.I.D.S in the world? Give us some facts on that instead of how the people look there. HIV/AIDS is not a good look on anybody regardless of their skin color.
The comments attacking Byron Allen and his wife are vile. Halle Berry and Paula Patton are hailed as models of empowerment and this man is a “Sellout” and “Uncle Tom”. Such an obviuos double standard makes us look immature and vindictive.
Your provoking statement about the eradication of Blacks, etc.,is what made YOU look vile, racist and immature. Speak for yourself, because I don’t think you were hired or given authority to speak on Byron Allen’s behalf. Let that cowardly Sambo defend himself and his family his own self if need be.
Your statement was a vicious attack on Black people.
XXX Yes it was. I totally agree with you.
This site, unlike many others, is not an echo chamber where dissenting opinions are deleted. I am very happy to see black men and black women loving each other and having beautiful families together. I do not see IR couples as superior to black couples in any respect. I embrace black on black love and will NEVER apologize for it.
Then what accounts for your previous statements?
Oh boy you all are some bitter broads. This man has a right to be with anyone he wants. He doesn’t care that you don’t think his wife or child is beautiful. He obviously don’t think you all are beautiful either since yoa are not with him. As a matter of fact, I believe y’all are some lonely, manless women with all your b**ching and whining. I haven’t read one single comment that said people hope the black race ceases to exist. They only said they love seeing blended love. If you don’t appreciate it then go to Africa and marry a tar black zulu brother and you will be assured that you are contributing to sustaining the “black”race. Also, stay over there in Africa with your hateful views. I love seeing American’s intermixing. I love that my children won’t love for the color of one’s skin. They can marry, anyone they choose and I will be a happy camper. I will be happy as long asd they are not racist like some of you on here. Sheesh.
You are not addressing me, but I will comment anyway because of your dismissal of the fact that a scenario was indeed impled or insinuated regarding the impending demise of the “black” race or family as we currently know it. Whether it needed to turn into a heated discussion with a few personal shots at Allen and his family is debatable.
On another note, your flip reference about the “tar black” zulu is telling…on levels that you may not even bear witness…
I made the tar black comment simply b/c so many ignoramouses on this site complain even when a black man marries a black woman who is not very dark-skinned. You can’t please them!! They complain when blacks inter-marry and they also complain when they marry someone who doesn’t “appear” pure black. It completely ridicu;ous.
I love the fact and am so proud that our President, a man of consequence and importance, unlike Byron Allen, a virtual nobody, chose to marry a Black American woman. And even though the President is half Kenyan, his wife did not have to go back to Africa to get her a man with African ancestry just as no other Black woman has to take your recommendation to go to the homeland to get a man. But if we choose to travel there to find a better man than Byron Allen, it’s nothing wrong with that either.
Byron Allen may not be tar black, but I maintain that he is physically unattractive and not the best specimen of a Black man in my opinion which is just as valid as yours.
So there. You can go somewhere else too and it’s not on the Earth as we all know it.
Then you really haven’t read all of the comments or you’ve not understood what you read. I, for one, don’t think that one’s happiness is all rolled up in a man. Ergo, one does not have to be upset at some of the comments because they may or maynot have a man. In this day and time you should yourself, be a whole person; to have a man is dessert not the main course; or it shouldn’t be and if it is then you are the bitter “broad”. (That word in itself speaks volumns.) In what century are you living that bitter or sweet is spelled MAN?
Myths About Intraracial Relationships
1. Marrying someone of the same race guarantees that friends and family will approve of the relationship: There are a host of reasons why a family can oppose a relationship, and marry someone of the same race is no guarantee that families will be happy. They may find other reasons to object–religious differences, age differences, personality clashes, and many other issues.
2. Marrying some one of the same race will minimize the likelihood of a couple having disagreements because people of the same race are much more alike than people of different races: Once again there are millions of ways that couples can have disagreements, so this should be self explanatory. But, it’s not for many people. First, I’m sure many of you know intraracial couples who disagree with each other on any number of issues, and in many cases they disagree on racial issues. Do all Asian/Asian, Black/Black, White/White, or Native American/Native American, couple agree with each other on race? Of course, not.
3. Children of same race unions are not affected by racism: I’m sure we can all think of examples of children facing discrimination or being discriminators. Care to share some of your own experiences?
4. People who marry within their race care more about their
children than people who marry outside of their race: Given the fact that most parents who are accused and convicted of abusing their children are in marriage or dating relationships with people of the same race, we probably shouldn’t be singling out interracial couples for extra scrutiny. Ok, I’m being sarcastic, and purposely using statistics in a way to upset people, but there is absolutely no evidence that most or many people in interracial relationships do not care about their children, just like there is no evidence that people who marry within their race care more about children than interracial couples.
5. People in same race relationships agree on racial issues and their political implications: Ok, I can think of a few couples who reveal the absurdity of this. Ever heard of Maria Shriver and Arnold Schwarzenegger or Mary Matalin and James Carville? Their politics are different, and I’m sure this extends to their racial politics.
6. Intraracial couples have more in common than interracial couples: In sociology we use the terms endogamy and exogamy to talk about marrying inside (endogamy) or outside (exogamy) one’s group. This applies to race and other social groups–gender, class, religion, age, and so on. However, we also have another term called homogamy, which is a broader term referring like marrying like. Unlike the first two terms, homogamy refers not only to group membership, but also to values and beliefs. Marrying within the same race does not guarantee that a marriage will be homogamous in terms of values and beliefs, and marrying outside of one’s race doesn’t guarantee that people will have different values and beliefs.
This might be a double post, but here goes…
Jonella, wow. Did you just copy and paste or compose this on your own. So many paragraphs and I thought I was edging on hyperbole…whew.
I don’t mean any offense, but instead of educating the masses which may be the intent of your post, it just comes off as Patronizing.
Also, you are off the mark. MOST posting are NOT, READ, NOT AGAINST interracial dating/marriage/mating.
What brought about much of the discussion was this idea that Blacks would be eradicated eventually and/or mated out of existence and that this would somehow bring about a Utopia of sorts with a colorblind society. Some folk just thought that was kinda left feel and gave their 2 cents.
FYI I agree with what you have written as well!
I think it’s sad that this story has so many posts. Moving on…
how so? The nonrelevant initially, was made a relevant topic of discussion ONCE someone inserted the political aspect into it and people are having a discussion. It has remained mostly civil.
I have gained some insight from it– Even from people posting noting counter my own post, some of what they note leads me to look further…though I stand by my posts here–each of them
Its called exchange and open communication
Amen! Preach honey.
I gain nothing from all this bs. I have grown up not having narrow minded views and racial propaganda pounded into me and I frankly feel sorry for 98% of the people going on and on about this topic.
Then Why are you wasting your time reading any of this stuff.
You have the same troll commenting on stories of this nature all the time saying the same old same old. Always negative as if she rules the world and can tell folks what to do. Do want you will Black folks and live your life because when you do it makes your enemies jealous, you can get a good laugh out of that. I’m sure Mr. and Mrs. Allen are happy with their lives and could care less what strangers have to say about it; as if that is going to change things. Ha! Keep getting angry troll as the number of interracial unions increase.
@ Denise…Back at you…blah, blah blah loser.
@DENISE Where have you been my dear. They have been increasing every since slavery, only now it’s legal. What trolls are you referring to. I certainly don’t care who that man or anyother man marries; but I do care when people start talking up the extinction of my Blackness. That doesn’t make me a troll that makes me PROUD. Look that up in your FUNK AND WAGNALL!
Really, who cares? Who cares? Why is interracial dating an issue?? It’s 2010. Love is love no matter what color skin you got. It’s nuttin’ but a color. It’s nuttin’ but shade. Damn, I thought we where over this. Ya’ll all sound like a bunch of racist white suburban folk.
Ya’ll that mad? Blame the public school system.
Ain’t nuttin’ WRONG wit datin’ outside your culture. There’s interracial dating of all kinds of races, ethnicities and skin colors. I’ve heard even old white ladies say they believe races where meant to be mixed becuz they produce beautiful babies. Look at Kimora Simmons girls. Gorgeous. Why ain’t we all mad at that?
If the love is REAL, that is what matters.
Perfect family. Great pictures.
If you believe in the one drop rule then why does it matter if a Black person has a child with someone from another race? you consider that child just as Black as someone with two Black parents, don’t you? If a White woman and white man can have Black children, then black people don’t need to be with each other to continue the Black race……
que you just said they sound racist but you said”racist white suburban folk” so only white folks are racist??